Abortion is love

[Kingpin]

Lol, no thanks, I find it difficult enough to run a household of seven.  

You've got the face of a politician though. Has anybody ever told you that?

You saying I look dishonest?  

[Fake Messiah]

robvalue you're close it is love for Christians and Muslims to kill a baby but not before it's born. Their theology is against killing it before it's born, they believe in post-birth abortion,

This is professional Christian theologian speaking:




And also

[Tartarus Sauce]

You've got the face of a politician though. Has anybody ever told you that?

You saying I look dishonest?  

More like white and business-y. Not necessarily dishonest although it's usually something white businessmen excel at.

[Faith No More]

I know this question isn't for me, but here is my reason:

Because this life is also important. And human life in this life is sacred. Even if your intentions are "good", killing an innocent child is still the most heinous act you can possibly commit. You don't do something horrendous and evil for a "good" cause. Which, ironically enough, is also the reason why abortion is wrong even in cases of a crisis pregnancy. 

(Also, as I said, I don't see Heaven & Hell as "destinations". But rather, as a state of being a person chooses to be in. Loving someone is also allowing them to have their own mind and their own free will. By killing a baby/child because you don't want them to make wrong decisions, you are not only taking away their life, but their free will as well. It's a heinous thing.)

But you still haven't explained why the value you seem to place on this life is so disproportionate to how it compares to an eternal existence. You say that you are taking away their life, but so what? What difference does taking their finite life make if it saves their eternal soul?

[Catholic_Lady]

I know this question isn't for me, but here is my reason:

Because this life is also important. And human life in this life is sacred. Even if your intentions are "good", killing an innocent child is still the most heinous act you can possibly commit. You don't do something horrendous and evil for a "good" cause. Which, ironically enough, is also the reason why abortion is wrong even in cases of a crisis pregnancy. 

(Also, as I said, I don't see Heaven & Hell as "destinations". But rather, as a state of being a person chooses to be in. Loving someone is also allowing them to have their own mind and their own free will. By killing a baby/child because you don't want them to make wrong decisions, you are not only taking away their life, but their free will as well. It's a heinous thing.)

I had an abortion in the case of a crisis pregnancy; am I heinous?

No. Everyone does things that I don't always think are right, and sometimes, that I think are very very wrong... including myself. That does not mean that they are bad people. 

I can't imagine the plight of women who are faced with crisis pregnancies. And I strongly disagree with treating women who have had an abortion, or are about to have one, with condemnation and rash judgement on their character.

[rexbeccarox]

I had an abortion in the case of a crisis pregnancy; am I heinous?

No. Everyone does things that I don't always think are right, and sometimes, that I think are very very wrong... including myself. That does not mean that they are bad people. 

I can't imagine the plight of women who are faced with crisis pregnancies. And I strongly disagree with treating women who have had an abortion, or are about to have one, with condemnation and rash judgement on their character.

Ok. Was my abortion heinous?

[vorlon13]

To the extent you did not use bitter herbs?

[Catholic_Lady]

No. Everyone does things that I don't always think are right, and sometimes, that I think are very very wrong... including myself. That does not mean that they are bad people. 

I can't imagine the plight of women who are faced with crisis pregnancies. And I strongly disagree with treating women who have had an abortion, or are about to have one, with condemnation and rash judgement on their character.

Ok. Was my abortion heinous?

Yes. All abortion is, imho. And I know you don't want to hear that, but it would be inconsistent/dishonest of me to say that some are ok and some aren't, when I strongly believe all human life is precious with no exception.

[Kingpin]

No. Everyone does things that I don't always think are right, and sometimes, that I think are very very wrong... including myself. That does not mean that they are bad people. 

I can't imagine the plight of women who are faced with crisis pregnancies. And I strongly disagree with treating women who have had an abortion, or are about to have one, with condemnation and rash judgement on their character.

Ok. Was my abortion heinous?

I know this is directed for CL, but I want to answer.  Acts that are considered heinous in general, are not always heinous.  Killing a person for example.  Intent is paramount to defining the act as heinous.  If I'm driving my car down the street and elect, of my own choice to swerve on to the sidewalk and run over a man, killing him, that is heinous.  If I am driving and texting and not paying attention, and I dont see the red light or the pedestrian in the crosswalk and hit them with my car, that is heinous because I was being negligent.  If I am driving and a person who wishes to commit suicide, runs from behind a tree leaping front of my car and it kills him, that is not heinous.  

In all three scenarios, a person's life ends as a result of me driving my car, but they are each distinctly different.  In the case of a crisis pregnancy, same thing.  If your life was not at risk, I presume you wouldn't have aborted.  Intent is everything in classifying an action.

[vorlon13]

Ok. Was my abortion heinous?

Yes. All abortion is, imho. And I know you don't want to hear that, but it would be inconsistent/dishonest of me to say that some are ok and some aren't, when I strongly believe all human life is precious with no exception.

Prior to natural birth, the first breath, and ensoulment, it's heinous ?

Huh?

Please explain.