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Help Me Understand
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 (September 16, 2015 at 1:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Is god still creating today? Maybe so. To punish all the sexual sinners, creation of antibiotic resistant STD's? Not six-day creation type stuff, apparently. (Though if a few new species were created on some remote island to be discovered next year, who would know?) More likely, things are STILL evolving just as they always have. (Though it normally takes so long to observe that type of change, who would know?)  (September 16, 2015 at 1:10 am)Shuffle Wrote: Can all christians that don't believe in evolution explain to me your problems with it. It is just really hard for me to rap my head around someone not believeing in evolution in the 21st century, so it would make it easier if I understood exactly why you don't. And maybe I can help you through your confusions, maybe not. I think I may be the only one that falls in to this category and while my objections to evolution are many and deep, I don't think we can cover all of it, I'm also curious why you care? You state you want to help through my confusions, but confusion is far from my objections. Does it matter to you that I accept evolution? I see some have stated that Christians deny evolution because it goes against Creationism. I have logical issues with the theory of evolution, irregardless of Creationism. I will get in to these objections when I have a few, though I know I did this fairly recently.
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 RE: Help Me Understand
September 16, 2015 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2015 at 3:16 pm by drfuzzy.
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Well, since I don't see any Creationist Theists showing up yet, I'll jump in the pool.
Here's how I was raised: the xtian school I went to had science books that showed pictures of God creating the world, and of God walking with Adam as he named the animals, and the creation of Eve from Adam's rib. When asked about fossils and dinosaurs, my parents told me that they were lies by the evil scientific community, who hated God. If they found any real bones (that the scientists hadn't buried themselves) then those fossils were placed on the earth by Satan and his demons to try to confuse mankind. Any fossils that were found could not be older than 6000 years, because scholars had dated the age of the earth from God's Word. Darwin was an agent of the Devil. Humans could not possibly be descended from apes, because we still have apes, how silly! <my brain hurts now> When I transferred to a public high school, I was careful not to bring my science book home. Edit: Just to be clear -- I am no longer a Creationist! I love science. I believe that man created god.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
oops sorry Kingpin - we must have both been typing at the same time!
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
 (September 16, 2015 at 1:53 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:I am curious as to what your objections could possibly be. There is zero doubt in my mind that evolution has been true. Not belittling you in any way just genuinely curious.(September 16, 2015 at 1:10 am)Shuffle Wrote: Can all christians that don't believe in evolution explain to me your problems with it. It is just really hard for me to rap my head around someone not believeing in evolution in the 21st century, so it would make it easier if I understood exactly why you don't. And maybe I can help you through your confusions, maybe not. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
RE: Help Me Understand
September 16, 2015 at 2:50 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2015 at 2:57 pm by Kingpin.)
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
(September 16, 2015 at 1:55 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Well, since I don't see any Creationist Theists showing up yet, I'll jump in the pool. I've always gone to public school and didn't go to church as a child so I was not taught those creation stories as fact at a young age.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
 
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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