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What is the name for modern atheists?
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 (October 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:The only thing I can contribute is my set of polyhedron dice and some AD&D books.(October 2, 2015 at 1:47 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: They're gonna kick you out of the theist clubhouse, you keep it up. Sorry, but I don't step foot in a clubhouse without them... 
 (October 2, 2015 at 1:59 pm)LostLocke Wrote:(October 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: I built my own. All are welcome.The only thing I can contribute is my set of polyhedron dice and some AD&D books. It's been years, but man I loved playing some pen and paper D&D back in the day.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
  (October 2, 2015 at 2:03 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Excellent post, and I have noticed that some also equivocate the two. Sometimes I think it's because they are simply ignorant of what you have espoused here, other times it seems like a tactic to wiggle out from a corner. In either case, I think this is good for most people to keep in mind, and to not get angry, if someone assumes the other definition. No one's getting angry at kingpin, he's too adorable. 
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
 (October 2, 2015 at 1:30 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Bambi, Excuse me if I don't join the universal praise others are giving this post by lkingpinl. Atheism is not necessarily the belief there is no god or gods. It is more accurately the disbelief in the existence of a god or gods. These statements may sound the same, or may even sound like I am splitting hairs, but when it comes to these kinds of discussions, it is best to use formal and accurate definitions. The difference between the 2 statements above, is where the negation is placed. As in (where "!" is the negation): The belief there are !gods. As compared to: The !belief that there are gods. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  RE: What is the name for modern atheists?
October 2, 2015 at 2:28 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2015 at 2:28 pm by robvalue.)
Yes, that is indeed correct. They're informally known as weak and strong atheism.
Being an atheist tells you nothing else about a person, so looking for categories is kind of pointless. It's just like asking what kind of people there are.  RE: What is the name for modern atheists?
October 2, 2015 at 2:28 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2015 at 2:29 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.  RE: What is the name for modern atheists?
October 2, 2015 at 2:39 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2015 at 2:42 pm by Whateverist.)
(October 2, 2015 at 1:41 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I kinda like 'apostate' since I did consider myself Catholic for a time. That won't work for me. Reminds me of a problematic part of my anatomy. But there are other categories to be considered besides "do you believe in god(s)" - atheism and "are you certain that gods do or don't exist. In addition to being atheist and agnostic, I am also ignostic since I find the 'god(s)' in question poorly defined. I'll also cop to being apatheist since the questions concerning whatever these god things may be doesn't really interest me. (That said, I can admit to finding the question "why has god belief been so prevalent for so long" very interesting.) So there are at least four god questions the answers to which can help to classify atheists. They are: Do you believe in god(s)? Are you certain whether they exist? Do you know what we are even talking about when the G word comes up? Do you care whether or not gods exist?  (October 2, 2015 at 2:39 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:(October 2, 2015 at 1:41 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I kinda like 'apostate' since I did consider myself Catholic for a time. Yeah, I more or less the same. No No Vaguely No
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