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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 4, 2015 at 3:47 pm
(October 4, 2015 at 2:08 pm)abaris Wrote: Bad publicity for European drug companies to cater to executioners. That's the main reason they don't do it. But I'm sure, the authorities can come up with another method to kill that guy. They never seem to run out of ideas when it comes to killing someone.
There are several states that have their original capitol punishments (electric chair in Florida and firing squad in Utah fro example) in reserve as backup to lethal injection. They don't need to come up with new ideas. Just take the old ones out of moth-balls.
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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 4, 2015 at 5:04 pm
Just tie him to a lamp post at the corner of Meeting and Calhoun Streets. He'll drown.
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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 4, 2015 at 7:43 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 12:20 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Quote:Until 2009, most states used a 3-drug combination for lethal injections: an anesthetic (usually sodium thiopental, until pentobarbital was introduced at the end of 2010), pancuronium bromide (a paralytic agent, also called Pavulon), and potassium chloride (stops the heart and causes death).
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/state-lethal-injection
Wikipedia Wrote:Sodium thiopental, also known as Sodium Pentothal (a trademark of Abbott Laboratories, not to be confused with pentobarbital), thiopental, thiopentone, or Trapanal (also a trademark), is a rapid-onset short-acting barbiturate general anesthetic that is an analogue of thiobarbital. Sodium thiopental is a core medicine in the World Health Organization's "Essential Drugs List", which is a list of minimum medical needs for a basic healthcare system. It was previously the first of three drugs administered during most lethal injections in the United States, but the U.S. manufacturer Hospira stopped manufacturing the drug and the EU banned the export of the drug for this purpose.
Wikipedia Wrote:Pentobarbital has been used or considered as a substitute for other drugs traditionally used in the United States for execution when they are in short supply. Such use however is illegal under Danish law, and when this was discovered, after public outcry in Danish media, Lundbeck, the owner of the drug, stopped selling it to US States that practice death penalty. US distributors of the drug are forbidden by the owner to sell it to any customers, such as several state authorities, that practice or participate in executions of humans.
Quote:Two states have used midazolam as the first drug in a three-drug protocol: Florida and Oklahoma. Oklahoma's use of midazolam was botched, and the inmate, Clayton Lockett, died after the procedure was halted. Two states have used midazolam in a two-drug protocol: Ohio and Arizona. Both of their executions in 2014 were prolonged, accompanied by the inmate's gasping.
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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 5, 2015 at 10:44 am
A anesthetic? Them some pussy footing futhermuckers.
Why don't they just give him a blanket, like they did with the Indians? Whatever happened to good old cyanide or arsenic?
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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 5, 2015 at 11:47 am
(October 5, 2015 at 10:44 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Whatever happened to good old cyanide or arsenic?
(July 20, 2015 at 12:10 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Time Magazine Wrote:Cyanide suffocates. It stops oxygen consumption by body tissues. It is hot and bitter when swallowed, produces nausea and a splitting headache. The throat tightens, and the victim gasps for breath, reels, stares wildly without seeing, is seized by convulsions, and falls unconscious. Then, like an expiring balloon, his laboring lungs and heart slowly collapse....
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/ar...z2rF7OKDua
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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 5, 2015 at 12:02 pm
This is going to continue to be a problem with lethal injection. What pharmaceutical manufacturer in their right mind is going to want their drug associated with killing.
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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 5, 2015 at 12:26 pm
If they raise the price 5000%? All of them.
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RE: S.C. Can't Execure Dylan Roof Because of Drug Shortage
October 5, 2015 at 1:36 pm
(October 3, 2015 at 9:01 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/25/south-...-shortage/
Quote:An international boycott of the drugs the U.S. uses for executions has made them difficult to find, with South Carolina among the states that have completely run dry.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/25/south-...z3nYT6ABll
When the government wants to kill somebody, that person is dead. They just send the police or the FBI and shoot the person 120 times to make sure they're dead. so I don't believe this shit about they ran out of this one drug.
It's not about most efficient means of killing people, it's about appearances and making a show of executing people under "legitimate" state authority. Simply murdering them in a hail of gunfire does not accomplish that purpose, as it tends to undermine state authority (not that it stops it from happening, but it's terrible as a method).
Missouri has also had major problems with attaining the drugs from Europe, and has pulled some pretty unconscionable stuff in order to continue their practice of executing prisoners, including hiding the methods and chemicals from public review:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arch...ty/283348/
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