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the hammer of homosexuality
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 10, 2015 at 4:15 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2015 at 4:25 am by robvalue.)
Like everything, God is either directly responsible for homosexuals; or he allows it to happen so gives consent; or he is not actually as in control of things as we are told.
Theists' use of the word "natural" is dumbfounding, considering they think God is supernatural, and he does everything that ever happens with magic. Homosexuality is completely natural, in any meaningful sense of the word. Homophobia is often caused by a combination of ignorance and insecurity, in my opinion. I expect it's almost certain the men writing the bible were homophobic, in fact I am surprised there are not many more references to it (there's barely any, and Christians blow it way out of proportion). Maybe even then they understood about "The lady doth protest too much." They seem to understand it better than many Christians today, who seem hell bent on broadcasting their thinly veiled repressed urges. RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 10, 2015 at 4:25 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2015 at 4:25 am by Longhorn.)
I really don't care (other than pure curiosity) if sexual orientations are entirely, partially, or not at all biological. None of these options are a valid reason for busy bodies to judge whether what consenting adults do in private is ok by them.
The concept of sin is meaningless. An offense to god....Not your fellow human beings, no, that could be called empathy, god forbid! No, your first and foremost concern is adjusting all the ways you've been made in by him to not offend the petty, insecure little dictator, because if you don't worship him 24/7, he might just realize how tiny he is. Ghhhh -_- RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 10, 2015 at 4:28 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2015 at 4:33 am by robvalue.)
Agreed. Even if being gay (or bisexual, which is too much for simpletons to be able to jam into their black and white thinking) was a choice, who the fuck cares? Worry about your own genitals and keep your nose out of other people's, except by invitation.
"Being gay offends God" = "Being gay offends me" Can't stop talking about the virtues of male/male anal sex = Can't stop thinking about other men's arse holes (October 10, 2015 at 4:28 am)robvalue Wrote: Agreed. Even if being gay (or bisexual, which is too much for simpletons to be able to jam into their black and white thinking) was a choice, who the fuck cares? Worry about your own genitals and keep your nose out of other people's, except by invitation. Well, if they kept their noses out of other peoples' business, what would be the point of Christianity? I mean, they claim it's a "personal relationship with God" and all that, but it's pretty clear to the rest of us that there's a lot more involved, most of it having to do with sticking noses where they're not welcome and pressuring people psychologically. My question isn't whether it's biological or not (it's pretty clear to me that it is), it's why they've chosen to focus on this one "sin" so heavily, out of the thousands of options, when 1) It has virtually no presence in the Bible... a couple of obscure references in the Pentateuch, a clear reference and a couple of vague references in the New Testament, and not much else, and 2) There are many, many other sins spoken of in much clearer terms, which are ignored almost entirely, such as fortune telling, for instance. Divorce is spoken against by Jesus in the clearest possible terms, and forbidden in very strong language, yet we hear nothing about it except an occasional sermon in the actual church, and nothing beyond its doors where I'm forced to give a shit about it. I've never managed to figure out how homosexuality became their pet bigotry. I know the history of Roman-style prejudice and conceptualization of the gay thing (e.g. expected/perceived femininity of gay men, and the idea that being the "bottom" or the one doing the sucking is somehow worse than the one on "top"), but I can't figure out how it got to be where it is, as a central-focus issue for this generation's primary bigotry.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
God forbids homosexuality.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I'm with Neimenovic. Who cares what consenting adults do whether it be biological or choice?
If these Christians don't want to be gay and willingly suppress their sexuality, that's their choice and their problem. They shouldn't push it on other though. ![]() (October 10, 2015 at 4:06 am)loganonekenobi Wrote: By that logic... I think I found your problem. Open your heart and let the hate flow, then you'll understand. My think is that peeps (American peeps) were just homophobic to start with, quote mined the Bible for the relevant Vengeance (cat's named Vengeance, ain't he?). Hooked some obscure Leviticus to their wagon, and it's off to the races.
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