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the hammer of homosexuality
RE: the hammer of homosexuality
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
Keep kicking ass Jor. I'll cheer you on.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
(October 20, 2015 at 10:03 am)Drich Wrote:
(October 19, 2015 at 10:37 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: You're not one of those stupid individuals who doesn't know that the bible represents far more than two completely different religions are you?
Case and point; every single denomination who interprets the Bible radically differently.
If you're going to be insulting could you at least do it properly? 
(FYI; You're using the laughing emote far too much at things that aren't that funny to the point its becoming meaningless.)

I would say the irony of the misspellings and misuse of the word 'your' was lost on you, yet ironically the use of the ROFLOL wasn't even if you claim the oppsite.

Your understanding of irony is intensely flawed.
This is not surprising.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
(October 20, 2015 at 10:57 am)Drich Wrote:
(October 19, 2015 at 11:09 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Done, now you can stop deflecting with long walls of text dedicated to relatively minor points. No need to thank me. 
Another question I would ask, based on this definition, is that are you intolerant to the opinion that gay people have a right to be themselves without ridicule or any type of harassment?
Outside of the church or a Christian context I don't care what Gay people do. It's only when gay people want to assimilate Christian values and force acceptance and recognition of their newly assimilated values by everyone that I take issue.
Meaning I do not agree with the idea that Christianity should be made to accept or adopt a gay social value. Like Marriage, adoption ect. If it is in violation of our deeply held beliefs. It should be 'ok' for one group of society to identify a behavior in another group and say, we want to part of that behavior in any way shape or form, nor should one group be made to support or accept that behavior.

In the west, 'we' have a mandate to assimilate all cultures and homogenize them. when in fact it is/was our diversity that makes us as a world strong. All Homogenized soceities reek of tyranny.

Quote:I mean, you're declaring it a sin. You're saying God is going to send them to hell.
So? I believe all sexual sin gay or hetrosexuals will fall into Hell if unrepented.
Quote: You support God, you say hes right. About everything. Therefore you think its right for gay people to burn forever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzVFugFcUto
(sorry could not resist, when ever anyone asks me if someone deserves Hell I think of that clip, because WE ALL deserve Hell) but to answer your specific question, yes I think it is right not only for the unrepentant gays but ALL Unrepentant sinners to burn in Hell. Why? Because an unrepentant sinner becomes Sin and given enough time sin manifests into Evil. (its like my Zombie analogy)

At the same time I also repentant gay people (even if they never gained mastery of their sin) will also find a home in Heaven.

Quote:And you have the gall to feign offence at being called intolerant? 

Being 'gay' is not the sole qualifier for hell here, therefore 'hate/intollerance' is not being directed at any one person or people. Being 'gay' is the same as being straight in this instance, which is the essence of true equality. The qualifier for the need of separation eternal (Heaven/Hell) is unrepentant sin

Quote:Just stop, its demonstrably false, demeaning and detracting from your main points.
Actually it's not. One can only assume my 'side bar' is demonstrably false if they assume that Gay people are the sole target of a 'let ship 'em off to Hell' campaign. Again not the case. Why? Because we are all in that same 'off to hell, boat.' for those who rather stay on the boat rather than repent of whatever sin they have trouble with, are the ones who deserve to see that boat to it's final destination.

Quote:If a community targeted you by screaming abuse at you, calling you an abomination and saying you deserve to burn in hell regularly I dare say it might contribute slightly to you being "unhappy". Again, this is demeaning. 
To deny that the regular abuse they suffer does not play a role undermines any credibility you have. 
Its dishonest and you know it.
ROFLOL Maybe 30 years ago! now the tables have been turned. You can not watch TV, open a magazine, got to sunday brunch, without being saturated in gay-ie culture stuff. Now (as per this very thread) Hate is directed toward the Christian or anyone else who does not willingly accept "gay culture stuff" with out reservation. You argument that Gay people commit suicide because culture does not accept them should have been retired a decade ago. So again, if Gay people are still commiting suicide in the same or greater numbers with all the social acceptance we have now, then again perhaps Homosexuality either attracts or produces a soul crushing unhappiness that causes people to commit suicide.

(October 19, 2015 at 10:22 am)Drich Wrote: You didn't even look at the link I provided to positive Christianity did you?

"Positive Christiianity" was Hitler's own version. Meaning He completely cut Himself and those in Germany off of the R/C Church and ALL other non state sponcered/propaganda filled bibles and denominations.

So yes Hitler did indeed use the term 'God' but as I said (Before you strawmanned off into this completely uninformed/ignorant of basic history tangent) Hitler saw the bible and Christianity as prescribed by the bible as a 'problem' to the Germany he was creating. He deemed all non Nazi State versions of Christianity is Negitive, and issued edicts forbidding it's practice. In His version he was the prophet/pope to God, and his word was akin to the words of God. This subsequently is why he also forbade Atheism.

ralphie Wrote:If you have evidence important to your argument copy and paste the specific sentence or paragraph important to it. Nobody should have to search through a webpage to find your point for you.
The WHOLE PAGE is the evidence when people are COMPLETELY Ignorant of a whole period of history they are 'teaching' about. In order for that person to disregaurd their version of history, they must emerse themselves in the complete truth of the matter. The problem with most of you is you look for sound bites or one or two paragraph summaries to tell you what to think. The problem with that? it is way to easy to manipulate those summaries or sound bites which inturn allows the manipulator to control how you think. When searching for truth, one must look past the easy quick answer and educate themselves on everything they can get their hands on or otherwise risk looking foolish when the challenging someone who knows the truth of their sound bite education.
Quote:Anyway. He was a leader of a different denomination so that means Christianity isn't responsible.
Seriously. When has that line of reasoning ever worked for you?
When a man takes the authority to surpass the deity and teachings of Christ (The one who Christianity is named)as outlined in Scripture, then that "new doctrine" ceases being "Christianity."

Would Islam be considered a "new denomination" of Christianity for you as well?

(October 19, 2015 at 10:22 am)Drich Wrote: Again, no. I ask you go back and read what I posted on "Positive Christianity." Educate yourself, before you speak. Don't make it so easy for me to make you look foolish. it makes everything you stand for also look ill informed and foolish.
Quote:So your house is pretty much just shards of glass at this point huh?
Panic

Even if my "house" were to ever fall, my foundation shall not move.

Just read through all of your points. They seem to boil down to "Thats not fair. God doesn't just think being gay is a crime worthy of burning for. He thinks alot of other people commit crimes they deserve to burn for too and I agree."
Alright well, then you and your God are intolerant of a good portion of the human race.
I would also point out that the religious seem to focus on the sin of being gay more than they do any other except perhaps that of sex itself. You have the right to your religion and all it encompasses, you do not have the right to inflict it on others especially if it sets up specific demographics as abominations that deserve to burn forever.
I'm sorry your TV is somehow stuck on queer eye for the straight guy but thats hateful and intolerant no matter how you frame it and consequently; bigoted. Perhaps not solely towards gay people but thats not exactly a saving grace. Is it. 

(Also; If you can't make your case solely on the facts and your ability to present them in a way that corroborates your premise then you're wasting my and your time. Either make your case or don't. Don't expect me to sift through your links just because you lack the ability to frame things in your own words. Many people making your case manage it and do not complain. Notice right now I haven't sent you a link from anyone I feel gets my point across for me.
Laziness is not endearing and you're doing a disservice to those who do make the effort. Even mixing up the emotes alittle might be a step in the right direction.)
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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