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Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
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 (October 30, 2015 at 10:18 am)alpha male Wrote: Consider: That's the problem with Descartes' enthymeme. Do you fail to exist when the words "I think" are not at the forefront of your conscious mind?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
 (October 30, 2015 at 10:18 am)alpha male Wrote: Consider: Let's keep this nice and tidy: Speak for yourself. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
 (October 30, 2015 at 10:23 am)Rhythm Wrote: That's not a position, it's a logical consequence of omniscience. It's a position, it's been debated for a long time, and it still isn't settled: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-w...knowledge/  (October 30, 2015 at 10:27 am)Nestor Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 10:18 am)alpha male Wrote: Consider: Amo ergo sum 
RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
October 30, 2015 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2015 at 10:32 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Notice that the responses place logical limits and modifications to all terms involved? For example...that the term omniscience refers only to what can be known, and the future cannot. What's wrong with that? Do you have your own objection, or would you use anothers in your own words....or do you plan on link dropping like a lazy shit, lol?
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The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers. Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. --Voltaire Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind. (October 30, 2015 at 10:31 am)Rhythm Wrote: Notice that the responses place logical limits and modifications to all terms involved? For example...that the term omniscience refers only to what can be known, and the future cannot. What's wrong with that? Do you have an objection, or do you plan on link dropping like a lazy shit, lol? You made a simple bare assertion regarding a complex topic that's been debated for thousands of years, so if I'm being a lazy shit, I'm just responding in kind. RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
October 30, 2015 at 10:36 am
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2015 at 10:36 am by The Grand Nudger.)
So, no objection, no further elaboration. You linked to a page without reading it's contents..obviously, and despite not really knowing what omniscience is or refers to, or whether foreknowledge is possible...and conceding that the subject is somehow undecided....knowing none of that, all uncertainty, whatever omniscience is and whatever foreknowledge is you're just -sure- that god has it and that there's no problem with your conception of it?
Color me unimpressed.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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