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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 26, 2010 at 1:51 am
(May 25, 2010 at 3:40 am)tackattack Wrote: I'll agree with Paul on this one, which is agreeing with Watson on his earlier points except paul being an atheism. Specifically, I would add that my world view isn't based off of the Bible and invisible pink unicorns because my world view is based in the now. I may have a "checks and balance" for my ego and morality, but personal responsibility/ accountability and "cause and effect" are central to my world-view. I would also add that experience a prerequisite for definition which is a prerequisite for proof which is a prerequisite for belief.
@God's child- I think a key problem with the stance of "God is my life for without Him I would have no meaningful life " Is that meaning is derived from self and a lot of people do find meaning in life without God. I think if a lot of fundies accepted this, they'd push away a lot less "unbelievers" and shrink the division. Even God speaks about not scausing dissent.
Tackattack, I was referring to myself and no one else. God is my life and I would not choose to live any other way.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 26, 2010 at 2:19 am
Quote:God is my life and I would not choose to live any other way.
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 26, 2010 at 4:45 am
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 26, 2010 at 10:23 pm
(May 26, 2010 at 2:19 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:God is my life and I would not choose to live any other way.
It amazes me that some people can only cope with their life by belittling others.Min your time would be better spent in the sandbox with other unruly kids.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 26, 2010 at 10:37 pm
This is our sandbox, sonny, and you and the other jesus freaks keep shitting in it.
Why not go someplace where they will find your professions of silliness just 'darling?'
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 26, 2010 at 11:39 pm
All it takes is asking min, and I'll leave. If you can't take a little challenging of your world view and just want to pat each other on the back, I'd be more than happy to oblige.
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 27, 2010 at 5:03 am
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(May 24, 2010 at 3:36 pm)Watson Wrote: You guys here talk a lot about intellectual honesty and being truthful with oneself, and it always seems to boil down to what the individual person's view of 'honest' is. What is true to one person is most certainly not always true for another. Perspective is, of course, subjective. It cannot be any other way.
Not most certainly... but true sometimes. Why be truthful with oneself if you are stupid enough that you can maintain a lie to yourself for the rest of your life? That seems like so much unnecessary stress. :Sleepy:
Glad to see that you have grasped subjectivity.... tis only a matter of time before you are an existential nihilist now ^_<
(May 26, 2010 at 11:39 pm)tackattack Wrote: All it takes is asking min, and I'll leave. If you can't take a little challenging of your world view and just want to pat each other on the back, I'd be more than happy to oblige.
But what if I like you!? 
Dogs shit in the sandbox too... but every time they are not doing that: people seem to like them. I seem to recall this being the religion subforum... so I don't see the problem. To use an offensive euphemism that I really don't mean offensively, but which I find interesting: This is the litter box off the side of the sand box 
Godschild Wrote:Tackattack, I was referring to myself and no one else. God is my life and I would not choose to live any other way.
Why? :S
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 27, 2010 at 6:44 am
@Sae- While I like you too , if the simple fact of me being here and expressing my opinions and sharing my perspective, in any way, fosters bigotry or hatred I can not in good conscious continue in that course. I've met some crazy, smart, fun and open wonderful people on here and I really enjoy it. This is an atheist sandbox though, and while publicized as an open forum, it doesn't better society (virtual or real) for me to be here if unwanted.. even by 1...
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 27, 2010 at 6:58 am
(May 26, 2010 at 10:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This is our sandbox, sonny, and you and the other jesus freaks keep shitting in it.
Why not go someplace where they will find your professions of silliness just 'darling?'
You seriously would prefer these forums without the theists? Then we would be no better than the Christian Forums. Its a shame these forums don't allow for negative reputation points. They come here knowing they are entering the Lion's den, and while some are incapable of reasonable debate, there are a few who make good punching bags^H^H^H^H^H^H^H erm, i mean debating partners.
I welcome our theist friends and enjoy debating with them (and making a bit of fun of their beliefs). They are welcome to do the same to my beliefs (or lack thereof). As long as everyone plays by the forum rules I think we can all get along nicely.
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RE: The honest truth of it?
May 27, 2010 at 9:14 am
(May 26, 2010 at 10:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: It amazes me that some people can only cope with their life by belittling others.Min your time would be better spent in the sandbox with other unruly kids. Hey, I thought this IS the unruly kid's sandbox. That's why I'm here. The other sandboxes are no fun.
I'm just going to be unruly anyways. 
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