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Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
#41
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
Nice dig, with the "easy to read" version. Personally, I prefer the NASB, though I've been known to dip into the New King James Version for certain poetic elements (like Ecclesiastes or Psalms), because I love the prose of the KJV but not so much the thees and thous.

Now that we have that out of the way, I have a serious issue with your citation of the final verses of Romans 1, which I consider among the most despicable parts of the New Testament.

28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

You see, we know this is why so many of your kind come here with all their preformed misconceptions about atheists, and all the horrible things they say to us here. But are you really suggesting that we are (unlike Christians, or at least significantly more than them)
murderers?
deceitful?
slanderers?
gossips?
wicked?
greedy?
untrustworthy?
unloving?
unmerciful?

I mean, really, dude? Because it seems to me that we are FAR FAR under-represented in the prison system, based on percent of the population: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...-imagined/

Could it simply be that the passage you're citing in Romans is just an example of the hateful bigotry of a small-minded person who saw anyone who was not a part of their clique as the enemy?

Don't let the fact that none of that proclamation lines up with reality slow you down, though, Drich!

ROFLOL
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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#42
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
I'm feeling the Love of Jesus in that passage!

Worthy of Death no less!
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#43
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
(October 27, 2015 at 4:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 1:57 pm)Irrational Wrote: I am waiting so anxiously to hear something new ... lol

Don't hold your breath.  Drippy doesn't do "new."  Drippy does the same old shit.

Drippy doesn't do the same old shit. He is the same old shit. So old he is coprolite rather than shit.
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#44
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
(October 27, 2015 at 5:04 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Could it simply be that the passage you're citing in Romans is just an example of the hateful bigotry of a small-minded person who saw anyone who was not a part of their clique as the enemy?

Fucking spot on!  Saul/Paul was a controlling, vindictive fanatic at his first appearance.  All he did was switch team jerseys.
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#45
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
Btw, one of the ironies of the thread is drippy using the word "study" as if he could know what the word should mean.
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#46
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
Why should we care what 'Biblical Christianity' is, according to you or anyone else?

Until the time the case has been made for the existence of anything that fits the description of a god, the specifics of that god, and whether the Bible, or any other religious text, accurately depicts said god, is a moot point.

You are putting the cart before the horse.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#47
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
(October 27, 2015 at 5:35 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: You are putting the cart before the horse.

You're overstating your case. He doesn't even have the cart.
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#48
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
(October 27, 2015 at 5:36 pm)Skeletor Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 5:35 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: You are putting the cart before the horse.

You're overstating your case.  He doesn't even have the cart.

Nor the horse, he is sanctimoniously imitating the sound of hoofs and insisting his laughing audience make way for his steed.
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#49
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
(October 27, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 5:36 pm)Skeletor Wrote: You're overstating your case.  He doesn't even have the cart.

Nor the horse, he is sanctimoniously imitating the sound of hoofs and insisting his laughing audience make way for his steed.

I know the sound of coconuts being clapped together.  I also know the difference between an ass's bray and a horse's whinny.
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#50
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
First, what we see today is mainly Paulism, not christianity. Secondly, take some history lessons on how it came to be. How it was changed at Nicea and during the whole 4th century to suit the political needs of the powerful.

I guess that's it for starters.
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