Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans

[GrandizerII]

Drich, seriously, nobody really cares about your lessons. Nobody is listening to you. Why keep going? Are you so deluded to think that people actually care to read your long posts? Narcissistic grandiosity maybe? You're not going to get any followers from here, so stop embarrassing yourself.

How do you know what 'others' do in PM and personal Email?

Hah, sure, man, sure. Keep lying to yourself.

[Minimalist]

All that is needed though is a moment or two where I can take a step back and recenter on what it is I'm supposed to be doing here.

You need to 'recenter' to sprinkle bullshit around?  That's the one thing you are a pro at.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

All that is needed though is a moment or two where I can take a step back and recenter on what it is I'm supposed to be doing here.

You need to 'recenter' to sprinkle bullshit around?  That's the one thing you are a pro at.

He's a Bullshit Spigot; it does no good to place the sprinkler on the edge of the lawn you're trying to spray... it has to be centered before the bullshit can reach full dispersal.

[Whateverist]

Bullshit spigots are a lot like a good rock crusher in that regard.

[Drich]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

If you want to read chapter 9 it is in the link above.

Chapter 9 deals with the topic of predestination, and really needs to be read in it's entirety from beginning to end to have a complete understanding of what is being said, however I will take small passages out and discuss them as I would assume if you all read what was in chapter 9 you might have a question on these subjects.

verses 1-5 Paul is beginning to talk about the jews and what God has planned for them/their role in or under the new covenant.

verses 6-13 Paul identifies with in the jewish community certain figure heads Abraham, Isaac, Esau etc. and how God used certain indivisuals for great and glorious purposes and other Paul says God hated. (and if you were to go back and actually read those stories God gives reasons as to why he hated certain people) This passage also dispels the doctrinal Christianity's notion that God is omnibenevolent.

In 19-29 we come across this block of text:

 19 So one of you will ask me, “If God controls what we do, why does he blame us for our sins?” 20 Don’t ask that. You are only human and have no right to question God. A clay jar does not question the one who made it. It does not say, “Why did you make me like this?” 21 The one who makes the jar can make anything he wants. He uses the same clay to make different things. He might make one thing for special purposes and another for daily use.

Now many Atheist arguments have quoted this passage as a way to blame God for their Atheism. To which I always point back to context. In context Paul is using this argument to identify why not all JEWS have not converted to Christianity. not why you 'good people' are atheist. I can I say this for sure? Again context if we keep reading we come across this:

30 So what does all this mean? It means that people who are not Jews were made right with God because of their faith, even though they were not trying to make themselves right. 31 And the people of Israel, who tried to make themselves right with God by following the law, did not succeed. 32 They failed because they tried to make themselves right by the things they did. They did not trust in God to make them right. They fell over the stone that makes people fall. 

Again Here Paul is specifically referencing the Jews as being the ones who stumble, and the gentiles (Everyone else) are or can be made right by simple faith.

[dyresand]

Dirch i don't get why are you are here pandering your belief to atheists like you can save us seriously there is
christian forums you can go and pander to other like minded people that believe in god why not go there.

[Whateverist]

http://www.hse.gov.uk/quarries/crushing.htm

Perhaps this will help you find your way, Drich. In all honesty nothing is as omnipotent as an industrial grade rock crusher. Get over it.

[Minimalist]

One of these days I have to read this book.

http://www.egodeath.com/thefabricatedpaul.htm

The Falsified Paul: Early Christianity in the Twilight
Hermann Detering (Darrell Doughty, translator)
1995 (German), 2003 (English)
This book shows that all the Pauline letters are all 2nd-Century fabrications, Catholically redacted from Marcionite gnostic dualist-god original versions.

Drippy's fucking head would explode which is hardly the worst outcome for the world!

[Whateverist]

Anyone feel like singing? [To the tune of "Bringing in the Sheaves".]

First verse:

Trolling out the troller, trolling trolls with humor,
Trolling in the noontide and the dewy eve;
Waiting for the anger, all the time a howlin',
We shall come rejoicing, trolling out the troll.

Trolling out the troll,
trolling out the troll,
We shall come rejoicing,
trolling out the troll;
Trolling out the troll,
trolling out the troll,
We shall come rejoicing,
trolling out the troll.

[GrandizerII]

Dirch i don't get why are you are here pandering your belief to atheists like you can save us seriously there is
christian forums you can go and pander to other like minded people that believe in god why not go there.

Something to do with delusion, ego, even wanting to confirm for himself that his beliefs are true by trying to convert others to the same beliefs. If he can convert atheists to his unique views, then that must mean he is right in his eyes.