Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Dirch i don't get why are you are here pandering your belief to atheists like you can save us seriously there is
christian forums you can go and pander to other like minded people that believe in god why not go there.

Something to do with delusion, ego, even wanting to confirm for himself that his beliefs are true by trying to convert others to the same beliefs. If he can convert atheists to his unique views, then that must mean he is right in his eyes.

Edit to Add: Ugh. I just went and looked at the EnchantingMinds link from that meme. Don't waste your time. Woo City. Sorry about that!

[Edwardo Piet]

So which one is the original quote?

[dyresand]

That's all i have to say

[Minimalist]

Only the very ignorant are perfectly satisfied that they know. To the common man the great problems are easy. He has no trouble in accounting for the universe. He can tell you the origin and destiny of man and the why and wherefore of things.
-- Robert Green Ingersoll, "Liberty In Literature" (1890)

[TheRocketSurgeon]

The answer is All Of The Above:

Dear Quote Investigator: Have you ever been absolutely certain about a fact and later determined that you were completely wrong? If you learn from that experience you become less arrogant and more empathetic. I wish more people would achieve this form of personal growth. Here are three versions of a relevant saying:

The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt.

This thought has been linked to the Nobel Prize-winning Irish poet W. B. Yeats, the prominent British philosopher Bertrand Russell, and the notable American writer Charles Bukowski. Would you please explore this topic?

Quote Investigator: The three individuals you mentioned each expressed different versions of this idea, and detailed citations are given below.

In 1920 W. B. Yeats published the poem “The Second Coming”, and the final two lines of the first section presented an instance of the saying. Boldface has been added to excerpts:

The Second Coming

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Here are additional selected citations in chronological order.

In 1933 Bertrand Russell wrote an essay titled “The Triumph of Stupidity” that lamented the rise of the Nazi movement in Germany. Russell employed a version of the saying:

The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. Even those of the intelligent who believe that they have a nostrum are too individualistic to combine with other intelligent men from whom they differ on minor points.

In 1935 Russell’s statement was disseminated via the Canadian newspaper “The Lethbridge Herald” of Lethbridge, Alberta. The phrasing was slightly altered by the movement of the phrase “is that”. The quotation was credited to Russell and was used as a filler item:

“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”—Bertrand Russell.

In September 1936 the syndicated column “The Office Cat” printed a simplified shortened version of Russell’s expression, but no credit was given to Russell or anyone else:

A LOT OF TROUBLE TODAY IS THAT THE STUPID ARE COCKSURE AND THE INTELLIGENT ARE FULL OF DOUBTS.

In October 1936 a column called “Scoop’s Colyum” in a Danville, Virginia newspaper reprinted the expression given in “The Office Cat” without an acknowledgement to Russell or “The Office Cat”.

In 1949 the quotation collector Evan Esar included the saying in “The Dictionary of Humorous Quotations”. The altered streamlined expression was ascribed to Russell:

RUSSELL, Bertrand, born 1872, English philosopher, mathematician, and writer.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt.

In 1989 the poet Charles Bukowski was interviewed in a literary journal called “Arete”. The following excerpt begins with a question posed by the interviewer. Bukowski’s reply included an instance of the saying particularized to the domain of literature:

Your poem ‘friendly advice to a lot of young men” says that one is better off living in a barrel than he is writing poetry. Would you give this same advice today?

I guess what I meant is that you are better off doing nothing than doing something badly. But the problem is that bad writers tend to have the self-confidence, while the good ones tend to have self-doubt. So the bad writers tend to go on and on writing crap and giving as many readings as possible to sparse audiences. These sparse audiences consist mostly of other bad writers waiting their turn to go on, to get up there and let it out in the next hour, the next week, the next month, the next sometime.

In 2001 the trade publication “InfoWorld” printed an instance with an ascription to Bertrand Russell and an acknowledgement to “A Word a Day”. This version included the phrase “fools and fanatics”, and it differed from Russell’s 1933 statement. Its provenance is uncertain:

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.” — Bertrand Russell, quoted in the book A Word a Day

In conclusion, the three quotations from W. B. Yeats, Bertrand Russell, and Charles Bukowski can be grouped together semantically. But the expressions are individually distinctive and interesting.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/03/04/self-doubt/

[Drich]

That's all i have to say

so a series of tubes and solar arrays is "cooler."

You are mistaking location for construction. put the two side by side then compare. or better yet let wait a few hundred years and let see what 'cool' does for 'mankind' then.

[Drich]

ok so it looks like you guys are read for chapter 10, but before I move on any questions?

[GrandizerII]

ok so it looks like you guys are read for chapter 10, but before I move on any questions?

No, but I'm so excited to read your posts on the next chapters in the Bible. Can you do all the chapters in the whole Bible please??? Make them long as well.

[dyresand]

That's all i have to say

so a series of tubes and solar arrays is "cooler."

You are mistaking location for construction. put the two side by side then compare. or better yet let wait a few hundred years and let see what 'cool' does for 'mankind' then.

Hmm want to play this week in science and this week in religion?

[Minimalist]

That's all i have to say

so a series of tubes and solar arrays is "cooler."

You are mistaking location for construction. put the two side by side then compare. or better yet let wait a few hundred years and let see what 'cool' does for 'mankind' then.

More than your fucking religion has ever done for mankind, asshole.