Here's why Creatards might be right

[Cecelia]

I think you're oversimplifying what Gravity is. Have you ever taken a course on Physics?

Also, I don't think there's any real evidence for design. I mean if the universe was designed with life on earth in mind, why is the universe so big? Why any other planets at all? And just because science can't currently understand something, doesn't mean that they won't eventually. It just means we don't know, which doesn't mean "creationists might be right".

[Aroura]

You really shouldn't eat mushrooms you find in the forest, dear!  They can cause all manor of strange ideas and feelings.  Why, once when I was a little girl, I ate some mushroom from a faerie ring, I thought my aunties had grown wings!  Tehehee!

[robvalue]

What would a non-designed reality be like?

[ApeNotKillApe]

What does "planning" entail when making a cosmos? Did the designer draw up a blueprint? Or did the designer just do it all in their head? If this being is both powerful enough and intelligent enough to create the universe, did it really need to plan anything? Wouldn't it already know what to do?
Assuming it's a God did it, wouldn't it have done everything instantly? What was the designer doing with itself before the spacetime continuum? If it was indeed planning the universe prior to the creation, how did it go about doing that without time or cause and effect? How do you proceed through the cosmos-making process before cause and effect exists? It doesn't make sense. Wouldn't God have done everything right at the very first instant of time? Wouldn't the universe have begun at the same moment as God? If not, if the designer was there "before time" then this being operates outside of physical law as we understand it and as such it exists outside of human comprehension. Aren't we right back where we started?

[ignoramus]

Hey Pooley, don't start going all stupid and religious on us now!

Checkout newtons 3 laws and then tell us what you find odd about them.

Eg: If you throw a rock in space, will it come back to you? Why not?
If we didn't become intelligent, nature will act the same way, so why blame intelligence for your curiosity.
Eat a banana and shutup and be cool! Hehe

[Losty]

Pool can you please share

[houseofcantor]

I think you need to change the water in your bong.

Yep.But I'm right though aren't I?

I suppose, according to the Many Worlds Hypothesis, there's one in which you are correct. The odds of that being this one, however, are essentially zero.

Pool can you please share

I'm pretty sure that shit'll make you sterile.

[Losty]

I already have 3 kids I don't even want more anyways.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Science does not provide rules as to how the world should work.Science merely make observations of it and try to provide explanations for why it is the way it is.But how did it come be the way it is?Why does the water rise when we fill a bucket with water?Why doesn't it go down?Anyone that comes up with a scientific answer for why the water doesn't go down but up have not understood what or why science truly is.
Science is not the reason why the apple fell down.Science is not the reason why it hurts to have a cactus up your ass.
Science is the attempt at an explanation for why the apple fall down.Science is the attempt at an explanation for why it hurts to have a cactus up your ass.(Frankly I wouldn't need science to figure that out.)

Anyway,science is merely a tool that attempts to explain the already designed world.But how did the world come to be the way it is?Surely not by evolution.Isn't that stuff for the living things?Then from what The big bang? So basically there was nothingness and there was a big explosion and earth was created and people would move forward if they walked forward(I know it seems stupid but that's because it's how things have always been and it seems silly to question it.But have you ever wondered why you move forward when you walk forward?)and apples would fall down if they were thrown up.Kind of not very convincing tbh.I mean,why does water turn into ice when we cool it?The only explanation we have is a scientific explanation,not that it's a bad thing it's just that if water were to turn into chocolate(analogically) when we cooled it,then we'd figure out a scientific explanation for that too.So what the point?

If the world really was designed and implemented,we'd be explaining the implementation using science and the design would forever be a mystery.
I mean,nobody is really going to understand why a rock comes down when you throw it up - it just does.This hints for a pre-designed world.Thus my conclusion that creationists might be right.What do you think?

Disclaimer:

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This is only an idea I got when I was taking a shit and I saw a bucket get filled by water.Don't need any flame wars.You can contribute if you have something to contribute or you can move on.
And no.I'm not revealing what I've been smoking.

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To mention one example you gave: we know the rock comes back down because we have observed that between any two masses there exists an attraction such that they draw together. We call that attraction gravity. We don't know why gravity exists, because science codifies material behavior, not imputed purposes.

As for your bucket of water, the water rises because all atoms have an electron shell around them, and all of those electrons have negative charges. Like charges -- positive-positive, negative-negative -- repel one another. We don't know why that relationship pertains, but we do know that is why water rises instead of falls when we fill a bucket.

So no, this line of "reasoning" is unconvincing.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I think you need to change the water in your bong.

Yep.But I'm right though aren't I?
Stones fell down before gravity was discovered.
Gravity isn't a real thing though,it's made up.
Gravity isn't a real thing but what is an attempt to explain why stones fell down.
So when we say that gravity was discovered what we mean is - an explanation as to why stones came down to earth was discovered.

Congratulations. You've discovered the difference between "theory" and "fact".

I mean like,science is never going to find out the ^source^ (if you know what I mean,i.e,how gravity came to be or how motion came to be or how anything came to be.)

How do you know what will be discovered in the future? Scientists have hypotheses that might explain, for instance, gravity. We may well learn why gravity exists once they are tested.

(Also I have this theory that if the earth is the result of the big bang then the nearest planets of earth should also exhibit the features of earth.I thought about this after looking at how when I heated oil and it would pop then some popping would be localized to that region.)

But now you're forgetting a couple of things: firstly, our neighbor planets largely do share our composition of heavy minerals, and secondly, gravity (there's that word again!) will tend to sort the materials of the solar system from heaviest to lightest outward from the source of the gravity, in this case our Sun. The fact that that is what we actually see helps to confirm our current understanding of gravity, by the way.