Here's why Creatards might be right

[jenny1972]

This is all irrelevant to evolution of course Jenny, how life or the universe began is not what evolution is about.

i know were not talking about whether evolution occured but why evolution evolved as it did , through random chance or intelligent design

[Thumpalumpacus]

The Big Bang was an expansion of spacetime itself. Particles didn't exist for a long time after the initial hyperexpansion.

That's dope as fuck
I wonder how those particles knew how to "This is how particles interact with each other, period." They certainly wouldn't have gone like "POOF! NOW I KNOW HOW TO INTERACT WITH OTHER PARTICLES"

I'm pretty sure it had something to do with the temperature of the Universe dropping to a level that allowed particles to form. You see, the hotter the environment, the less-organized matter inside that environment tends to be, because heat loosens valence-bonds by exciting matter.

Above a certain point, matter cannot "condense" out of energy, simply because there is too much heat energy present.

The particles don't "know" anything. You hopefully know that already, so forgive me for belaboring the obvious.

A little education goes a long ways, y'know?

[Edwardo Piet]

Jenny,

I really don't understand why you not only just don't "get" evolution but you also seem opposed to it.

I'm sure you have your reasons... I hope you come to realize that life can be just as awesome with a belief in evolution... because when it comes to logic evolution actually makes a lot of sense.

I like you Jenny and you're nice... but because I understand how natural selection works doesn't make me a "religious atheist" : there's no such thing as a religious atheist.

[Esquilax]

what developed these constraints ?

As I explained in my first paragraph, all of the earlier alterations within the system. Nothing can evolve fingers at the end of arms it doesn't have, after all. Everything is constrained by the basis it's working with.

[Edwardo Piet]

i know were not talking about whether evolution occured but why evolution evolved as it did , through random chance or intelligent design

Oh so you do believe in evolution then? You just don't think the origins of life came about without a god?

[Thumpalumpacus]

No, Jen, I don't believe that at all. Let me grace you with another fact.  It is a fact that pitching straw is an idiotic way to object to someones statements.  Let me ask you this plainly.  Do you understand what we're all referring to...when we say that you're pitching straw?

let me grace you with a well known fact about debating , when your debating partner has no intelligent rebuttal to the argument he is reduced to personal insults

If you want to be treated with substance and respect, you should perhaps behave that way yourself.

The way you're behaving right now can be summed up by a simple picture:



Why, exactly, should this approach of yours be accorded any respect? Why should your thinking, sheltered as it is from reality, be considered worthy of consideration?

You can earn your respect, or you can fuck off.

[jenny1972]

how were the laws of physics and chemistry developed what developed them ?

If there comes a point where we don't currently know, or I don't know personally, are you going to claim that this gives your position any additional credence?

no of course not i was just wondering if you personally had a theory about if if you dont have a theory about it then you dont it doesnt give more credence to my theory do you think its impossible that an intelligent being was responsible ?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Straw manned, yet again, shitposter.  Have you given me any reason to doubt that you are being willfully and deliberately deceitful?  Will you ever?  If you don't like being insulted, then perhaps you should stop working so hard to deserve it.

what are your arguments or proof if you have any  that unintelligent particles in existence
define and govern their own behavior ? why do you believe in unintelligent programming of the well defined organized laws of physics and chemistry ?

You're not right. You're not even wrong.

You are so far afield of the discussion that you are irrelevant.

[The Grand Nudger]

This is all irrelevant to evolution of course Jenny, how life or the universe began is not what evolution is about.

i know were not talking about whether evolution occured but why evolution evolved as it did , through random chance or intelligent design

We...aren't discussing this at all.  That's you pitching straw, yet again.  

Evolution is not random.
Evolution is not random.
Evolution is not random.
Evolution is not random.

Just trying to make sure it gets through your thick ass skull, which you have evolution to thank for, btw.  Some intelligent design, right there.

[Thumpalumpacus]

you dont believe intelligence created it so how do you believe they came to exist ?

The properties of the matter and energy itself.

Perhaps you should study a little chemistry before you start expounding upon its origins?