Atheism "rights & wrongs"?

[Excited Penguin]

Are you being serious right now?

Yes.... is that code for you don't have any answer to my question?

That is code for I don't even know where to begin describing how backwards your whole moral read on this is.

[Excited Penguin]

Yes.... is that code for you don't have any answer to my question?

I don't know about you, but I tremendously value all the knowledge and art that we have found and accomplished and created over the millenia, and humanity going extinct would more or less mean that all of that is lost, and I feel that it should be preserved and appreciated as long as possible. That's not an objective value because those do not exist, but I think it is one that is widely shared, and one that is closely tied to human curiosity.

It's objective as fuck, for all intents and purposes.

[Excited Penguin]

I don't know about you, but I tremendously value all the knowledge and art that we have found and accomplished over the millenia, and humanity going extinct would more or less mean that all of that is lost, and I feel that it should be preserved and appreciated as long as possible. That's not an objective value because those do not exist, but I think it is one that is widely shared, and one that is closely tied to human curiosity.

If mankind were to go extinct no one would be here to mourn the loss. It would have no effect on anyone because they would not exist. It would likely have a very positive effect on the rest of the world though.
Plants and animals don't really give a damn about our knowledge and arts as far as I can tell, though zeh puppies might be a bit sad to see us go, I think the cats would celebrate and see it as their shot of being the next species to rule the earth.

I'm not saying that I want us to go extinct. I'm just saying I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, I don't think we need to be so worried about it that we should ban homosexuality in the hopes that gays will have babies, and when it does happen I don't think it will be the worst thing that could ever happen.

Realistically speaking, it is the worst thing that could ever happen, barring a scenario where everyone would suffer the greatest amount of pain for the longest amount of time. To put it in terms like " we wouldn't care because we wouldn't exist" is naive and redundant. We should care about the future of our species because we live right now. There's nothing else to care for. There's no higher good for us. If we were to take your kind of thinking seriously we would all have to have no consideration for any human life because we're all gonna die anyway and there's no point in preserving it since it won't even last. There's literally nothing else more important in the whole world then our own lives and, by extent, the preservation of our species. People who say there is are driven by a very sinister kind of thinking indeed, not to mention wrong. I, for one, just think you haven't thought it through.

[Alex K]

Do your children know how much their mother says the F word on the interwebs?

Abso-fucking-lutely.  I've always said Fuck as much as I've pleased.  I don't think there's any such thing as a 'bad' word.

I'll handle that the same way. Raising critical thinkers to me includes that they know that words aren't magically bad, but that some can be highly inappropriate in some circumstances. Better risk a few stray shits and fucks at the funeral reception than teaching them silly puritan ideas I'll say. We'll see how that philosophy works out in a few years