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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 10:48 am
(December 10, 2015 at 10:41 am)JBrentonK Wrote: (December 10, 2015 at 10:28 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: GTFOH with that crazy shit, man.
Satan worship, by definition, cannot be paganism because it involves an element of Christian mythology - Satan Himself is from the Christian mythos. You might as well call Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and Christian Science "paganism", by your stretch.
Pagan traditions come from religions that are not Christian, typically ones that are older than Christianity (even when they've been re-packaged into modern religions, like Wicca). People I've known who are Pagan tend to revere what they call the "old gods" of their ancestors, usually those of Celtic or Germanic or Norse origin, though I've known a few who look to the Greek and/or Egyptian pantheons. None of them worship Satan, and would find the idea laughable.
What you're likely confusing is the Pagan imagery of a goat-god, Baphomet, with Satan. In fact, historically the image is used because the Knights Templar, when they were being wiped out by the church, were accused of worshiping Baphomet, which scholars have suggested is a corruption of "Muhammad"... it was an accusation that the Templars were incorporating Islamic ideas into their worship. In reality, it was an excuse for the Inquisitors to destroy them. The imagery associated with the accusations against the Templars shaped the general Christian idea of what the Devil supposedly "looks like", resulting in the goat-hoofed, fork-tailed, pitchfork-wielding red guy we think of today... but none of it was reality.
Atheists cannot, by definition, believe in any gods. That's literally what the word atheist means (a = no/without, theos = god/gods), so your accusation of "sad atheists who really believe" is hollow and fatuous.
Try to educate yourself before you go spouting accusations.
Edit to Add: In fairness, I should include the fact that Aleister Crowley did famously made Baphomet a symbol of life and the universe, using the name as his own "magical title", and was accused of Satanism... but Satanism is not Satan Worship, and Crowley vehemently denied being a Satanist or Satan Worshiper. Even if he had been, Satanism is, at its root (as far as I can tell anyway) almost entirely symbolic, deliberately using Christian imagery to "poke Christian ideologies in the eye" as a counterpoint to Christian influences on society. In short, despite the use of "devil-imagery" for shock-value, your accusations against both Pagans and Satanists are false. I've known dozens of both, and have never actually met someone who worships Satan.
WOAH buddy! Woah! I was starting to have some respect for you and your posts, but now I see what they boil down to. A load of ****. You, as is beccs, are incorrect. Paganism is devil worship, and there are no elements of paganism that are NOT devil worship. You can look all you want pal, but you won't find any of paganism relating directly to God. That is why it's called Satanism, you dipshit. When we use the word paganism, we mean Satanism. And every atheist that disbelieves in God can find proof for the devil all he wants--- you see?
You, young sir, are a fucking idiot.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 10:53 am
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Are you sure you're not talking about yourself? Mr atheist....
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 10:59 am
(December 10, 2015 at 10:53 am)JBrentonK Wrote: @SofaKingHigh
Are you sure you're not talking about yourself? Mr atheist....
Fuck me, you've basically played the "I know you are, you said you are, so what am I" card. I'd guess a 14 year old with the intellectual capacity of a toilet.
Mr cunt.....
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 11:05 am
(December 10, 2015 at 10:41 am)JBrentonK Wrote: WOAH buddy! Woah! I was starting to have some respect for you and your posts, but now I see what they boil down to. A load of ****. You, as is beccs, are incorrect. Paganism is devil worship, and there are no elements of paganism that are NOT devil worship. You can look all you want pal, but you won't find any of paganism relating directly to God. That is why it's called Satanism, you dipshit. When we use the word paganism, we mean Satanism. And every atheist that disbelieves in God can find proof for the devil all he wants--- you see?
Aww, I lost your respect?  
Um, try http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pagan
pagan
[pey-guh n]
noun
1. (no longer in technical use) one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
2. a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan.
3. Disparaging and Offensive.
(in historical contexts) a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim; a heathen.
an irreligious or hedonistic person.
an uncivilized or unenlightened person.
1325-75; Middle English < Medieval Latin, Late Latin pāgānus ‘worshiper of false gods’, orig. ‘civilian’ (i.e., not a soldier of Christ), Latin: ‘peasant’, noun use of pāgānus ‘rural, civilian’, derivative of pāgus ‘village, rural district’ (akin to pangere ‘to fix, make fast’); see -an
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 11:09 am
Lying for Jesus is still lying.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 11:33 am
(December 8, 2015 at 1:03 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: If you want proof why don't you just go to google and type in pagan satanism.
Why? If you make a claim, it's YOUR job to prove it. Are you really too lazy and ignorant to run your own search? From reading your incoherent ramblings, we could believe it.
And if you HAD googled the term, you would not have written that sentence, would you? Because the results that come up claim overwhelmingly that "pagans are not satanists" - something that was as obvious as "you need air to live" to most of the forum participants here.
Psychotic poe troll. You can't even tell a convincing lie, or string together a coherent sentence. You REALLY need to lay off of the drugs.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 11:36 am
Nah, he needs to start on some, might liven the drippy fucker up.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 11:38 am
(December 10, 2015 at 11:33 am)drfuzzy Wrote: You REALLY need to lay off of the drugs.
Christ addiction is a terrible disease. It does major damage to the brain, while making the addict feel euphoric and yet abusive toward others.
I'm a recovering Christoholic. I've been Jesus-free for 22 years.
Believe in yourself, JBrentonK. You can overcome your reliance on that neurochemical crutch.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 11:38 am
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(December 10, 2015 at 11:36 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Nah, he needs to start on some, might liven the drippy fucker up.
I'm not gonna call him drippy anymore.
Carl told me not to. And it ruins sexiness.
Will I elaborate? No I will not, it's not my place 
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 10, 2015 at 11:41 am
(December 10, 2015 at 11:38 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (December 10, 2015 at 11:33 am)drfuzzy Wrote: You REALLY need to lay off of the drugs.
Christ addiction is a terrible disease. It does major damage to the brain, while making the addict feel euphoric and yet abusive toward others.
I'm a recovering Christoholic. I've been Jesus-free for 22 years.
Believe in yourself, JBrentonK. You can overcome your reliance on that neurochemical crutch.
But Rocket! J GetBent Killjoy already thinks he's god! Jeebus is gonna throw a lightning bolt at that boy any day now. Or, oh wait, lighting bolt - - - that would be Zeus, wouldn't it? My bad. 
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