French Terror Attacks, scores dead

[Mudhammam]

You're right that Min didn't massacre 100+ people in a concert hall just now. Neither did 99.99999% of Muslims, whom he would wish to blame. If I sound like a Islamist apologist, it's only fair to point out that you - in your defense of his xenophobia - sound like an apologist for right-wing nationalism that is infiltrating France right now as well.

Oh just fuck off with that bullshit man. If I sound like an apologist for right ring nationalism then get your fucking ears checked. If you knew anything about me or my politics then you'd know I am as far from fucking political extremism as it's possible to get.

Ha... While you suggest that I'm acting like an apologist for Islam, akin to those who blamed Charlie Hebdo. Eat your own fucking words.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

You're an apologist for extremism and terrorism with your current reap what you sow discourse. Enjoy that very detestable plinth on which you stand.

Everyone who knows me on this forum knows that I would never support what you suggest I am. I'll let my 2+ years of contributions here do the talking for me, thanks.

[Brian37]

There seems to be a lot of fear-mongering going on here - by people like Min - about Muslims worldwide. Why not look at yourself in the mirror and ask why you are not to blame as a financial supporter of military operations, which are often more likely to provoke such attacks, than simply the fact of being Muslim?

NO SEE this is what I hate, you are partially right. But do remember there is not one country in the world, friend or foe that does not invest in the global market, and that would include the weapons industry. Islamic countries have investments in banks and weapons too. 

You want this shit to stop? Then we have to get people to stop focusing on religion and politics which are what the industry sells fear to play the powers off of each other. But as it stands now, only one region in the world still has too much of it's population stuck in it's own dark ages. 

There is plenty of blame for all of humanity worldwide.

[abaris]

Btw it's funny how so many people are so concerned with the far right and repercussions and not with what is happening right now. Europe will get what it deserves for being dumb and suicidal. The lesser evil will prevail

Funny? The far right is despicable, but I already know, you're a big fan. It's not that I'm for unlimited immigration, it's only that I despise these rightwingers just as much as I despise these Islamist lunatics. It's not the Europe I voted for, if these abominations get their way. And no, I don't feel protected by them. The only feeling I get when they're talking about pulling up new borders, is a deep sense of revulsion. The EU can just as well pack up and leave, if it's reduced to economic liberty.

I seem to remember, you wanting to leave Portugal for the UK. Well, good luck with that under Cameron, who's even a moderate, compared to what raises their turd heads in the rest of Europe.

[Mudhammam]

Your an apologist for extremism and terrorism with your current reap what you sow discourse. Enjoy that very detestable plinth on which you stand.

You obviously need your eyes checked as I said no such thing. But I was making a comparison to point out how outrageous his and others comments are - if you had been paying attention and hadn't rushed to his defense, that might not have flown over your head.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Your an apologist for extremism and terrorism with your current reap what you sow discourse. Enjoy that very detestable plinth on which you stand.

You obviously need your eyes checked as I said no such thing. But I was making a comparison to point out how outrageous his and others comments are - if you had been paying attention and hadn't jump to his defense, that might not have flown over your head.

I wasn't responding to that point as demonstrable in my reply and subsequent 2 replies after (read above for example). Ironic that that was what went over your head, eh?

I wasn't jumping to his defence, but targeting your reap what you sow apologist discourse.

[Mudhammam]

You obviously need your eyes checked as I said no such thing. But I was making a comparison to point out how outrageous his and others comments are - if you had been paying attention and hadn't jump to his defense, that might not have flown over your head.

I wasn't responding to that point as demonstrable in my reply and subsequent 2 replies after (read above for example). Ironic that that was what went over your head, eh?

Then you're flat out lying about me? Funny because as a member of this forum for nearly 2 years as well, I don't recall ever apologizing for terrorism or Islam... ass.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

You just wrote how military intervention (I presume in the Middle East) is effectively the justification for the attacks. That reads like 'they shouldn't have provoked...' Or 'they had it coming...' Which was so prevalent following the Charlie attacks.

You insinuated that min's financial backing of military intervention (?) meant he was just as culpable for the attacks as demographic [x]. That's flat out sleight of hand apologist discourse, regardless of how right or wrong min was.

[Mudhammam]

You just wrote how military intervention is effectively the justification for the attacks. That reads like 'they shouldn't have provoked...' Or 'they had it coming...' Which was so prevalent following the Charlie attacks.

You insinuated that min's financial backing of military intervention (?) meant he was just as culpable for the attacks as demographic [x]. That's flat out sleight of hand apologist discourse, regardless of how right or wrong min was.

Read what I wrote again. It's a fucking fact that as a tax-paying American or citizen of one of its allies, there is more responsibility on each one of us for the savagery that occurs on both sides of the fight than there is on some poor Muslim refugee trying to escape the disasters we're partially responsible for. Again, fucking fact. And again, that citizens such as Min or myself share some of that responsibility wasn't my fucking point, now was it?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Btw it's funny how so many people are so concerned with the far right and repercussions and not with what is happening right now. Europe will get what it deserves for being dumb and suicidal. The lesser evil will prevail

Funny? The far right is despicable, but I already know, you're a big fan. It's not that I'm for unlimited immigration, it's only that I despise these rightwingers just as much as I despise these Islamist lunatics. It's not the Europe I voted for, if these abominations get their way. And no, I don't feel protected by them. The only feeling I get when they're talking about pulling up new borders, is a deep sense of revulsion. The EU can just as well pack up and leave, if it's reduced to economic liberty.

I seem to remember, you wanting to leave Portugal for the UK. Well, good luck with that under Cameron, who's even a moderate, compared to what raises their turd heads in the rest of Europe.

Europe teeters on the edge of a knife. We can only hope it doesn't go the way some people want it to. I've had quite enough of nationalism and feverous patriotism, as I assumed Europe had after the unfortunate incidents of last century. Then again, most people who lived through all that are now dead, and people seem to forget so easily.