French Terror Attacks, scores dead

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Remember, this is supposed to be a war and when one side attacks the other side can strike back if it has the means to do so. Years ago the thinking was that this would be a hundred year war. That means that both sides will do a lot of bleeding. Why would anyone want to fight a hundred year war when they have the means to end it forever in one year?

[ReptilianPeon]

I'm not putting all the blame on the United States. Saudi (supported by U.S.) loves DAESH because DAESH kills Shias. Majority of the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi and Bush even knew the attacks were going to happen several months before but he did nothing and certainly did not cancel his holiday to address the major security risk. Apparently he didn't care about his fellow countrymen, never mind the countless people who died in the wars justified by 9/11.

Difference with Russia is they are not imperialists. The Syrians asked the Russians for help. Syria did not ask NATO for help.

DAESH is horrible. What I'm saying is right now the United States has this mentality: Perpetual war for perpetual peace. They've been meddling Arabia for decades and nothing good has come of it.

The United States did not have to resort to using nuclear weapons against Japan. I'm of the inclination they wanted to show off and thereby intimidate the Soviets. Did you know, NATO refuses to adapt a 'no first use' policy for nuclear weapons (as does Pakistan, a U.S. ally)?

[Edwardo Piet]

"Love is wise, hatred is foolish. In this world, which is getting more and more closely interconnected, we have to learn to tolerate each other, we have to learn to put up with the fact that some people say things we don’t like. We can only live together in that way. But if we are to live together, and not die together, we must learn a kind of charity and a kind of tolerance which is absolutely vital, to the continuation of human life on this planet. I can’t bear the thought of many hundreds of millions of people dying in agony, only and solely because the rulers of the world are stupid and wicked. I can’t bear it." - Bertrand Russell

After the events of yesterday I can't think of a time when this is any more relevant.

If only Islam was more like Jainism.

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The above quote is also contained within this song, one of my favourites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGyV-gGHwlc

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[WinterHold]

I know one thins irrational : when this "idea" started to manifest in Arabia, the west had tendancy to "become its ally" to defeat the Ottomans, they even sent officers like T.E Lawrence to aid the Arabs who held these ideas.

Today, saudi arabia is a hole producing this idea, yet the west seems to treat Saudies so nicely. While we speak now, the west is "infested" by Saudi students coming for "scholarships". Sitting in western countries, eat western food, fart, then go back to their homeland "cursing the Kuffar".

An idea cannot be bombed indeed, but an idea cannot grow without funding. Without media. 
Who made "Jihadi John" so famous ?
Who gave the goats of ISIS a "first class media coverage" ?

When a country is in war, it usually tends to humuliate and expose its enemy on the media. In the case of ISIS that didn't happen, only bullshit about how strong they are.

Indeed it's an idea. But sadly irrational, when you fight it (and take me as an example), you either get sent to gulags and prisons, or ignored by everybody.

And the believers of the idea ? they get funding, scholarships, free guns, sweets and villas in beverly hills, stuff like that.

If the west is serious, what about cutting relationships with saudi arabia ? what about "truly" fight Sunna and Shia mentality ?

Can't say I disagree with this much ...

But I do think blaming the West on most of the major problems in the world is a bit excessive.

ISIS began and was born, only after the U.S invasion of Iraq. That's a fact. Even the Mainstream media is reporting this : the situation in Iraq was better before the U.S declared war.

As MrNoMorePropaganda said : what would you do irrational, if you woke up to a drone missile that deviated and burnt your family to crisp ? let alone : how would you respond after knowing that they died because of "a LIE". 

A mere lie, Bush lied when he fooled the world with the W.M.D. And instead of being trailed, he got out of it so smoothly; let's not forget Tony Blair too.

A lot of people in the Middle East lost faith in the west, you're talking to one right now. Yes; me. I know what the west is, I know what governments like the American regime is, I know what vampires like Bush, Hilary "witch" Clinton is.

Talking about politicians ? we have same vampires here; people like the Sauds, Assad, Tehran's government.

The point is irrational, it's a big MAFIA. Big gang of criminals, from the White House to the Barons of Arabia. 
It's just not fair, to blame one side and leave the other.
And words like "Muslims are this or that"..it's the same that ISIS members say when they say : "westerners are this and that".

The problem is not Muslims or "Westerners". The problem is politicians who think they are God. Those politicians come in different shapes, races, colors, and all.
We, the people, would get along so nicely if we just ignore them and live. But politicians never leave us alone.

Let's be honest : who made the only profit from war on terror ? aren't they "the multinational corporations" that sell arms ? I mean, we have AK-47s running freely in Paris now !!!

Remember Charlie Hebdo ?


Just like a scene from Bond.
Look at their faces.
Jihadi John couldn't attend the march with them..he called in sick

[WinterHold]

ABC covering it right now

i watched news last night until were there any more attacks last night i heard there were 7 attacks you cant declare war on isis unless the french president is going to do what Bush did i dont see them doing that or i hope not anyways . so far the war on terror has produced more terrorists than have been eliminated . anything that involves carelessly bombing civilians is not going to decrease terrorism the only way to fight terrorism is to identify the sources of terrorism and eliminate that instead of trying to put a bandaid on the symptoms and obviously it has a lot to do with religion tolerance for this behavior  .

From my opinion, the biggest step in that war is mental; a war of thought, that's maybe 90% of it. Brute force comes last and in small percentage.

Terrorism didn't start with Muslims, it's a tactic used by "every country". Every military institution across the world use terrorism and practice it; if the world didn't put an end to strategic bombers, nuclear bombs and etc; how does it seek to end terrorism ?

Brute force to me, is just a bandaid..and as you said, that doesn't work. Ever. The blood will spill sooner or later.

[Minimalist]

And so it begins...

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/poland-w...s-attacks/

Poland will not take refugees under EU scheme after Paris attacks

[WinterHold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gPOJ7AmttQ

He said it.
Connect the lines. Some Muslims -again-, are a tool.

Being a tool doesn't mean you are "good". It might mean that you are so evil yet so ignorant that you couldn't see it coming.
Simply you're not worthy to command. You're a minion; that's all.

Let's see the advantages of such attack :
1-Make countries like France and Germany put more boots on the ground.
2-Make terrorists in the region put more boots in the ground.

Here ya go : you just lubricated the wheel of "war economy". This way, the economical crisis can cease for a while; since profit from war will enrich the sellers.
This way, you got yourself a deal that worth Trillions. Human loses can indeed be neglected, what would the world lose if Thousands of people die ? humans can't cease to fuck; so newborns would be born. Though the Trillions would stay.

Put some "angry" atheists here to warmonger against "ze muslem danger", and put some "angry" Sunnies there to warmonger too against "ze evil west". Here ya go ! a cycle that would keep war economy going.

Every now and then, blow some Muslims (and make it so obvious that the U.S is doing it) then kill some French (and make it so obvious that the evil muslims did it).
Did you know, why many parties would fund ISIS ? and make alliances with Saudi Arabia ?

You see; they play God.
The fear is, that things spill and the spark go; and atomic war starts. When the nuclear winter begins, it's already over.

[ReptilianPeon]

When will Barrack Obama give back his Nobel Peace Prize? Someone needs to take away his Nobel Peace Prize. He has made the world a more dangerous place.

But, by the way, AtlasS33, the gunmen knew Paris too well to be refugees I think - otherwise I agree with the video. At least 10% of Syrians are Christian and you have loads of Druze as well, and Shia and non-religious, who all want to escape DAESH. And altogether that's maybe 30% of Syrians. There's easy ways we can find out who is Christian and who radical Sunni:
1. We could see if they are willing to commit Shirk at the border - because believing Jesus is a deity is Shirk. We might also ask them if they are religious or not.
2. And then we find out their opinion of Ali and Aisha (to see if they are Sunni or Shia)
3. And then they can beat the DAESH flag and books written by Abdul Wahaab with a shoe for a couple of minutes too, but they have to do it with enthusiasm, just to make sure they're not lying.

If they fail the test then we don't let them in.

[Excited Penguin]

Nous sommes tous les Parisiens.

[abaris]

And so it begins...

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/poland-w...s-attacks/

Poland will not take refugees under EU scheme after Paris attacks

Only someone not knowing Polish policy, can be surprised by that. Especially the newly elected PIS is the next thing Europe has to catholic fundies with xenophobic elements. Polish policy has always been one of whining and cherry picking when it comes to the EU. They're not the only ones, but by far the most vocal ones.