Christian argued that everything must have a creator

[The Grand Nudger]

Not for me, it wouldn't.  I'd ask them -all- to demonstrate that their propositions are true, lol. Apologists like to talk, they don't like to do the work. Before anything can be considered to be proven it must be shown that the form is valid -and- the propositions are sound. The second part is where every single argument for god fails...so I like to cut to the chase.

[orangebox21]

[TheRealJoeFish]

[orangebox21]

[RobbyPants]

I responded to a thread on Facebook about atheist morality. I expressed that I believe that religious people's belief reflects their morality and not the other way around. I gave Christians as an example, citing biblical teachings that modern Christians don't follow, and a Christian responded by arguing that everything needs a creator.

They said, 'Classic logic can bring one to the conclusion of a single God.  We humans are contingent beings, that is, my parents had to make me, your parents had to make you, so on and so forth up the line.  If any of that changed, I wouldn't be the same, or you wouldn't be the same.  Going back and back it's not as if there can be some loop where two or hundreds or thousands are equally contingent upon each other, it must come back to one being who is not contingent upon any other being. That would be God.  Now going from deism to a specific religion requires faith, but monotheistic deism is the logical way.'

This was my response, 'My parents made me using a natural biological process, and yes, their parents in turn made them. However, your logic falls apart at the point when you assume that this means a god must have initiated the process.

I'd say a better response would be to tell the guy that the discussion is about morality, so the origins of the universe are off-topic. Red herrings are annoying.

[Nontheist]

This is a bit off-topic as well but ask what this god was doing before he decided to create everything.