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John Armstrong With A Simple Challenge For Muslims
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RE: John Armstrong With A Simple Challenge For Muslims
Mohammad will come by and tell us that those aren't real "muslims."
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(June 24, 2010 at 4:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Mohammad will come by and tell us that those aren't real "muslims."

who aren't real muslims? Decapitation is Muhammed's favourite execution style..
let me tell you a story. Once there was a jewish tribe called Banu Qurayza. They were allies of muslims but they didn't participate to Battle of the Trench. After that battle Muhammed claimed that Banu Qurayza betrayed to muslims. so he sieged their fortress, and they surrendered. Do you know what was Muhammed's punishment? Yes, he cut every men's (including ones barely of his full age) heads off. women and children? well they are just enslaved..
for more information just check wikipedia...
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He won't believe it coming from you, either.
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of course he wont. he doesn't believe in history lol
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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(June 24, 2010 at 6:49 pm)annatar Wrote: of course he wont. he doesn't believe in history lol


History is as much a lie as religion, my friend.

Quote:All religions have been made by men.
Napoleon Bonaparte


History is a set of lies agreed upon.
Napoleon Bonaparte
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RE: John Armstrong With A Simple Challenge For Muslims
(June 25, 2010 at 12:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: History is as much a lie as religion, my friend.

Quote:All religions have been made by men.
Napoleon Bonaparte


History is a set of lies agreed upon.
Napoleon Bonaparte

I think you are bit exaggerating.
I agree that sometimes history is hardly objective but comparing it with religion is cruel.. And at least it is verifiable.
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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All history has to be read with an eye on the motives or agenda of the author. Particularly in antiquity there is precious little that can be cross-referenced.
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With Adrian's assistance John is now registered here as DeistPaladin.
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(June 23, 2010 at 9:24 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: what you guys are expecting me to respond to? he said nothing more than what he think

Well, you could start by telling me what evidence you have that Muhammad actually spoke with God.

Every religion indulges in special pleading. "Our prophets told the truth, yours lied. Our god is real, your isn't. Our scripture is true, yours is just made up stories. Etc." But Islam actually takes that to a new level. To believe in Islam is to believe that the Christians got it all wrong about Jesus and yet the only way Muhammad could have heard about Jesus was from the Christians.

Muhammad isn't just claiming "I'm right and they're wrong" as other religions do. He's claiming to know Jesus better than the people he heard about Jesus from. He's claiming to understand Jesus better than the people who were part of the church established by the people who allegedly knew the alleged Jesus. He's claiming that God sat by and watched the Jews and Christians get it wrong for over a thousand years, did nothing to correct them, and then one day decides to speak to some guy in a different land and that's the best way to correct the problem?

Now Christianity also has a problem as the supposed successor religion to Judaism. Examination of the OT reveals that Christianity owes much of its dogma to pagan religions. However, it at least makes the effort to construct a slick marketing package to mislead the unwary. You have to dig deep into scripture and history to learn the extent of the con job.

By contrast, Muhammad seems to have sloppily slapped a religion together with claims no more believable to the outsider than those of the guy on the street with the sign about the coming end of the world who sells pencils at the corner. Why shouldn't I believe he was simply the Joseph Smith of his day?

So, you tell me, am I missing something?

Oh, and if you want more, here's my 5 Question Challenge to Muslims:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtbbDx5ys9Y
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Glad you got through the blockade, DP.

Why'd you change your name? Noble Savage has a ring to it.
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