Why do Atheists defend Islam?

[Mechaghostman2]

Yeah because stating facts and quoting statistics are totally bigotry.

Still waiting for your reliable sources, if I may say so. Reliable as in not UKIP, Breitbart or Stormfront. I'm pretty sure, I said that before.

You know the definition of fact? It's something that can be proven. It's not something brown and aromatic pulled from rightwingers ass.

As opposed to PC dogma bullshit pulled from a Leftwinger's ass?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/...-polls.htm

[Silver]

Of which atheist is the OP speaking, I am wondering.

[Mechaghostman2]

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You can convert to Judaism. In fact - you pretty much have to, if you want to marry a Jew and remain on good terms with your spouse's family (that's because most religious Jews are bigots too). So I guess most racists, who despise Jews didn't get the memo...

Judaism isn't a race. However, Ashkenazi Jews are a race of people, since a race is basically just variations of genetics within a group of people.

[CapnAwesome]

Specifically addressing FGM:

Historically, the first mention of male and female circumcision appears in the writings by the Greek geographer Strabo, who visited Egypt around 25 B.C.

"One of the customs most zealously observed among the Egyptians is this, that they rear every child that is born, and circumcise the males, and excise the females," Strabo wrote in his 17-volume work Geographica.

http://news.discovery.com/human/female-g...121210.htm

Seems the practice is quite a bit older than Islam. The article is also careful to note that the exact origins of FGM are unknown to us; however, there are reasons to believe the practice originated in sub-Saharan Africa. 

Here's a link to a U.N. report on the subject. The 90% level in Egypt previously stated is corroborated.
http://www.unfpa.org/sites/default/files...281%29.pdf

I must conclude that FGM is not an Islamic issue in and of itself; however, I think it is also fair to conclude that given Islamic culture's widespread misogyny and the way Islamic jurisprudence treats women that Islam is a contributing factor to why FGM is so prevalent in Muslim nations. I'll even go so far as to say that Islam, as it is practiced in many parts of the world is not a solution to the atrocity of FGM; in fact it's a hindrance.

This is just my way of framing my contribution to this discussion. As with all issues it's easy to create false dichotomies, in this case "is it Islamic or is it not". Both camps will point to the minimum facts required to support their position and content themselves with tossing those grenades back and forth without ever reaching a consensus on what the problem actually is in an effort to find common ideological understanding upon which a compromised/pragmatic solution can be achieved.

Yeah, I agree completely. Good analysis.

[abaris]

As opposed to PC dogma bullshit pulled from a Leftwinger's ass?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/...-polls.htm

Nice try. I was talking about reliable sources. Don't you think I already know that bullshit link of yours? It's what I called brown and aromatic. But if that goes over your head, let's simply call it rightwinger shit.

And you know the beauty of free speech, since you invoked that previously? People can actually disagree with you and call you out when talking out of your ass.

[Cato]

Yeah because stating facts and quoting statistics is totally bigotry. Now please, let's shut the conversation down by calling everyone a bigot rather than discussing the criticism. That really shows how educated and loving of free speech you are. Oh wait, no, no it doesn't. It shows your intellectual cowardice.

This reply is a perfect example of my grenade throwing analogy. Congratulations.

[Catholic_Lady]

And 80% of Muslims in the UK, yea you read that right, 80% of Muslims in the UK want drawing a picture of Muhammad to be illegal.

American Republicans are just as bad.

I try to be objective when it comes to Democrat vs Republican politics, but this is just plain false. 80% of Republicans want drawing a picture of Jesus (or whatever else) to be illegal? Umm source please? Let's not make ridiculous false accusations about an entire group of people.

[Catholic_Lady]

I'll never understand the liberal atheists who defend Islam in the name of political correctness. Especially when the same people bash on western culture.  It does happen and even on these boards but is hardly common amoungst Atheists. Most Atheists are very critical of Islam. I would say even the most critical of Islam.

No, it doesn't happen. It's only that some of you are unable to make a distinction between Islam and muslim. And if I haven't made myself perfectly clear already, I step up against that kind of bigotry and not in defense of any religion.

Oh, and what I hate most, is uninformed talking out of the ass. Which happens pretty frequently. Without giving any regards to the multitude of different ethnicitiies, cultures and countries being majority Islam and throwing them all under the same blanket.

I don't know about your country Abaris, I can only speak to mine. Yes, it does happen here in America. Yes, it is a thing. 

Here's a video of Bill and Sam talking about it. Obviously I don't agree with all their sentiments here, but they are 100% correct in pointing out the double standard. I am not a fan of these men but they hate Christianity as well, so they have no dog in this fight and are being objective. The way Ben freaked out only further proves their point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60

[Mechaghostman2]

As opposed to PC dogma bullshit pulled from a Leftwinger's ass?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/...-polls.htm

Nice try. I was talking about reliable sources. Don't you think I already know that bullshit link of yours? It's what I called brown and aromatic. But if that goes over your head, let's simply call it rightwinger shit.

And you know the beauty of free speech, since you invoked that previously? People can actually disagree with you and call you out when talking out of your ass.

Yeah, because multiple sources from pew research centers and CBS... totally not credible. Nice poisoning the well fallacy against my sources, though.

[GrandizerII]

American Republicans are just as bad.

I try to be objective when it comes to Democrat vs Republican politics, but this is just plain false. 80% of Republicans want drawing a picture of Jesus (or whatever else) to be illegal? Umm source please? Let's not make ridiculous false accusations about an entire group of people.

I said they are just as bad. I did not however say what you think I said. Quit strawmanning.