RE: Christians: Please Explain
December 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm
(December 8, 2015 at 7:18 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (December 8, 2015 at 1:41 am)Minimalist Wrote: Ah, so you're going with the "it's the literal word of fucking god until it doesn't make any sense" routine.... then it becomes interpreted.
Common among your ilk.
No.. I do t think so. I explained why and directly form the words used, why it's perfectly valid exactly as it reads. Where do you think there is a problem with the explanation?
Your apologetics fail. The fact that there are geographical fuckups in your precious bible seems to be a mystery only to you.
And Danny,
Quote: No it doesn't, what kind of bullshit is that? People who are indigenous to the land always feel a connection to it, and that's something we've learned pretty conclusively over the last few decades. Let's put it this way: just because "Australia" and its constitute states and territories exist doesn't mean that the Indigenous boundaries don't exist. Yes the Romans occupied and controlled the land, but just as "Israel" today, the indigenous people of the land feel that it is theirs and have their own territories.
where are you getting your history from? A cereal box?
In 722 BC the Assyrians overran the northern kingdom. The bible claims that the "Ten Tribes" were moved out and others brought in. Assyrian records, doubtlessly more accurate as they were written at the time, also indicate that the upper classes of society were relocated and the area, which included Galilee, was under Assyrian control until the Babylonians took it from them and then the Persians took it from the Babylonians and then Alexander took it from the Persians and finally Alexander's generals, Ptolemy and Seleucus fought over it. The Seleucids were the last people on top of the mountain bringing us down to the mid 2d century BC. So when did Galilee come under "Jewish" control? Obviously you have no clue so I'll tell you.
During the reign of Aristobulus I, 104-103, BC this son of John Hyrcanus completed his father's projected conquest of the northern regions which the Seleucids could no longer control.
Also like his father he instituted a policy of forced conversion to judaism - including forced circumcision - which must have gone over like a limp dick. By the end of the reign of his successor, Alexander Jannai, who was no prize himself, the Hasmonean Dynasty was in full fledged meltdown due to dynastic squabbles which raises serious doubts of their ability to control outlying areas.
Finally, in 64 BC Gnaeus Pompey's legions came rolling through and put an end to the fiction of an independent jewish kingdom which means, all told, that Galilee was under "jewish" rule for a mere 40 years. Contrast that with the 3 centuries of Greek rule and the roughly 4 prior centuries of Assyrian, Babylonian and Persian rule. In modern parlance, the Galileans were JINOs. Jews In Name Only. Their identification with Jerusalem is a product of xtian story telling. They didn't want any part of those smelly rebels...that's why they told Josephus to go fuck himself.
You started the thread with a good question about the gospel's silly geographical errors, which are well known. But you need to learn the history of the region and you are not getting that from the stupid fucking bible.
