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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 8:53 am
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Bingo. How many nutballs do we get on these boards who open up salvo after salvo against what they perceive to be the "atheist pope" without realizing that none of us actually give a shit.
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 9:09 am
Or that the terms "atheist pope", "four horsemen" and the like are/were used ironically.
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Since I have the fanciest chair, I decree that I am the Atheist Pope! 
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 1:49 pm
But how are you attired? Do you really have the hat and the dress to be our pope?
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 3:04 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 12:57 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Since I have the fanciest chair, I decree that I am the Atheist Pope!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKII8RHbV9I
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 3:22 pm
There is no one person that is the 'best spokesperson' for atheism.
Many of the prominent atheists have something to contribute to the issue.
I am actually quite partial to Matt Dilahunty. As a non-scientist, with no formal training in philosophy, his debating skills are quite formidable.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 3:31 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 1:49 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: But how are you attired? Do you really have the hat and the dress to be our pope?
Give me 5 minutes on Amazon 
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 14, 2015 at 6:53 pm
Other. Atheism is neither a group, nor a religion, nor an ideology. So, there's no need for spokesmen. Only the ability for critical thinking and making one's own way in life. These posterheads can be amusing at times, inspirational at others and obnoxious on the side. I certainly don't subscribe and never did subscribe to any one of them on my way to becoming an atheist or later on.
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 15, 2015 at 4:36 am
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I had never heard of any one on that list before I had become an atheist. Maybe that's because there are only anglophone people on this list, and the OP somehow assumed that a spokesperson for atheism must necessarily be such. There are probably skeptics in India who have reached more people, have risked more and made more of an impact against superstition than any of these Americans and Englishmen. The incredible Sanal Edamaruku comes to mind
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badast...l-skeptic/
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RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 15, 2015 at 11:45 am
(December 14, 2015 at 2:12 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: You'll note that the person forming this poll recently said something in another thread that was akin to suggesting we (me, really) followed Dawkins (and someone else... was it Harris?) the way that Christians tend to follow apologists like McDowell, et al.
Of course, I immediately set the record straight, having read only one science book and one book on atheism by the former (and I only liked the science book) and not having read the latter at all, nor having had any interest in further reading of atheist "leaders", because I prefer to form my own ideas based on as broad a knowledge-base as possible.
I have no doubt this very concept is baffling to people who seek to attain truth from the Highest Authority™ via the Divinely Dictated Book Of Ultimate Truth™.
Rocket-
I have mentioned Dawkins here and here.
Would you be so kind as to explain how you have construed from these posts that I have asserted that you or anyone else here "followed Dawkins"?
Thanks.
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