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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 4:58 pm
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We sure do. Not because I feel very comfortable with abortion, mind you...quite the opposite...but one thing that I feel even -more- uncomfortable with is forcing a women to carry a child against her will. Similarly, forcing sterilization, castration, or prison just so I (or you) could live forever..is heinous bullshit, imo. Your solution to the problems we already have, so you can get a peice of your pie...is worse, to me..than your death, or mine.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:00 pm
I'm curious, Amine, and sorry if you've addressed this already. But I wanted to know how you think this immortality thing would be implemented? Would everyone have access to this treatment or would it be tightly controlled by the government and only given to few special people somehow? If not, should it be covered by health care so that everyone could get it? Would people still be allowed to have kids? If so, how would we solve the problem of more people coming, without anyone leaving?
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:01 pm
I think Hollywood brainwashed you into thinking being compassionate is in itself a virtue, no matter what.
I'll tell you what. Rational compassion is good. Compassion for compassion's sake is almost always a bad thing.
But here's your basic narrative.
Fight the bad guy. Ignore the shit he's saying that makes sense, just make a caricature of him and stick it in his face until he melts into it. Then attack the bad guy. He's the bad guy. He's the bad guy. He's the Nazi.
Fuck. That's just pathetic.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:04 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 4:58 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We sure do. Not because I feel very comfortable with abortion, mind you...quite the opposite...but one thing that I feel even -more- uncomfortable with is forcing a women to carry a child against her will. Similarly, forcing sterilization, castration, or prison just so I (or you) could live forever..is heinous bullshit, imo. Your solution to the problems we already have, so you can get a peice of your pie...is worse, to me..than your death, or mine.
But the thing is not even that kid will survive with limited resources. And he'll die if we don't get around to solving the death problem. So he'll be just like me and you and what you're saying is, when he grows up in the future, he has more of a right to decide whether he should be the one to start the process of immortalizing the human race or not. Not us. Him. Because Hollywood.
LOL.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:04 pm
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So...when a regime pops up with biological immortality, and mandates castration and imprisonment for all the breeders, effectively anyone not in their regime...I can't count on you to even hold a case of 5.56 for me? Disappointing.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:04 pm
My guess is that we're somewhere around [140]. Obviously I have no way of knowing for sure, but I would rate the probability that someone currently alive today lives 200 or more years as very very very very very very extremely very very unlikely. Like, .00001%
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:07 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So...when a regime pops up with biological immortality, and mandates castration and imprisonment for all the breeders, or anyone not in their regime...I can't count on you to even hold a case of 5.56 for me? Disappointing.
If anyone not in their regime, means anyone who has a plan to make the world a miserable place again, just because they miss babies, then no, you can't count on me not trying to stop those people.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm
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You;re totally right, we should all rush to join their regime, because we have it so bad..you and I, today....and that's a splendid alternative to death. Where can I pick up my armband? Bonus, I can already march in an imposing fashion.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm
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If you care so much about unborn people, btw, you should stop whatever you're doing, buy a sex slave from the Deep Web and make kids until you die or your dick falls of.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 5:10 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 4:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: @ Amine..who said that? Peng did, that's who. My cheif concern is precisely that there -would- be new people. That's why I can't see immortality as a desirable thing until we have some plan (that doesn't involve the fuhrer's suggestions) for dealing with the exponential burden. We've got alot on our plate as is.
The exponential burden already seems to be taking care of itself. These days developed nations face the problem of a lack of population growth. Of course if no one ever died population would still accumulate, but faster than carrying capacity? I mean we are careening to the point where people are essentially pod creatures like in the Matrix. That's a bit far-out, but it hints at certain possibilities I think. Add that to mega-efficient energy technology, desalination, etc. and you might be looking at a possible population of trillions. Is that unrealistic? I mean not long ago it would have been outrageous to think the world could support 7 billion. Even if we don't become pod people, what about technologies like in-vitro meat? What about something like asteroid mining? The asteroid belt alone contains enough matter to support a population of quadrillions.
I'm getting self-indulgent now, but it seems fatalistic to shut down this idea by declaring population an insurmountable problem when we don't even know. We certainly didn't make such arguments about eradicating smallpox, for instance. If we hadn't, the world would have like a billion fewer people in it. Literally.
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