Just pointing out the stupidity of this argument

[Edwardo Piet]

The Bible is bullshit.

Anyway, I'm hungry, what's for dinner?

[Heat]

The Bible is bullshit.

Anyway, I'm hungry, what's for dinner?

What a coincidence, I was already planning on making Bull shit for dinner tonight!

[Edwardo Piet]

Remind me to not come 'round to yours for din dins.

[rexbeccarox]

I don't have to prove anything because the whole point is how one interprets the Bible.

Does not having to prove anything include the statement "the whole point is how one interprets the Bible?"  

I'll give an example that works in my mind.  The religious often like to point out that there must be a god since all of reality had to have a beginning.  You can't prove or disprove it but it does seem logical to the human mind.

The same can be said for interpreting the Bible.  once I read it it makes much more sense  from a primitive bronze age goat herder point of view than that of an all knowing god.

What would the point of view of an all knowing God be like?

There fore my logical conclusion is that the Bible (like all other holy books) was written by man who claimed to be inspired by a god so as to propagate their way of thinking.  

You can't prove that i'm wrong about that nor can I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am right.  However, logic says it is much more likely.

No...... your argument from ignorance says it is much more likely.

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Reminds me of the (very) old joke about the missionary and the native.  

The missionary has just finished relating the principle behind the salvation offered by Jesus.  The native scratches his head for a bit and says, 'Ok, let me see if I've got this straight.  You've told me all about your Jesus.  If I believe in him, I'll go to Heaven and be happy, but if I don't believe in him, I'll got to Hell and be miserable, is that right?'

'Excellent!' crows the missionary.  'You've got it exactly!'

The native ponders a few more moments, then asks, 'Suppose you had never come to my country and told me about Jesus.  Would I still go to this Hell place?'

'Oh no, my son.  Jesus would forgive your savage ignorance and you'd go to Heaven just as if you believed in him with all your heart.'

The last statement is factually inaccurate.  There is no Biblical evidence that Jesus would forgive a man of his sins if he is ignorant of the gospel.  Point of fact God says it is evident (Galatians 3:11), and it is written that there will be people saved from every nation, tribe, people and language (Revelation 5:9,7:9).  Therefore there will be no nation, tribe, people, or language, in all of history that will have not had the gospel preached to them.

Well, gosh. That makes it so much better.

[orangebox21]

Does not having to prove anything include the statement "the whole point is how one interprets the Bible?"  
What would the point of view of an all knowing God be like?
No...... your argument from ignorance says it is much more likely.

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What is the gospel and who said that it's the right gospel?

What is the gospel?
1Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.  3For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

Who said it's the right gospel?
The one who gave it.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

What is the gospel and who said that it's the right gospel?

What is the gospel?
1Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.  3For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

Who said it's the right gospel?
The one who gave it.

According to that all of the previous religious BS was just a waste of time because it all happened before Jesus became a zombie.  

Now while Paul was babbling his BS the crowd of local yokels didn't have a clue as to who the Jesus zombie was.  They just had to believe the BS Paul was telling them.  It's like the scam Jacob pulled when he persuaded the dummies to give him all of their gold, which he buried under a tree.  You can bet that he dug it up at the earliest opportunity.

While the dummies were foolish for believing Paul's and Jacob's BS they did have the advantage of actually seeing the con men in person.  But dummies today don't have that opportunity.  They have to rely on stories passed down through the centuries by unknown writers and story tellers.  Scammers would love to spend some time with you.

[loganonekenobi]

I looked at the christian view point on how to "interpret" the Bible and how all of us atheist get it wrong. He said you have to look at a passage with three things in mind. 1) the context in other words the whole story behind the passage. 2) the genre or the literary style of the writer. 3) the history at the time.

Of course the speaker then goes on to do some mental gymnastics about what passage was presented and at least he had some in depth knowledge of the subject. How ever what struck me about all of this was that any one of the four things (the passage, the context, the genre, the history) involved with each passage could vary from person to person and scholar to scholar. How do i know this mistake is being made? Because at last count there are over 30,000 denominations of Chistianity alone. Each claiming to be the "true" version of Christ. To add to this every religion has denominations of some sort.

If this isn't proof enough for a thinking person to see that religion is nothing more than a man made tool then you may want to examine who's arguments truly come from ignorance.

It's okay I know you won't.

[robvalue]

Yep. If God wrote it, I'd expect the meaning to be obvious... unless God didn't want it to be obvious. In which case he's a nob shiner.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Yep. If God wrote it, I'd expect the meaning to be obvious... unless God didn't want it to be obvious. In which case he's a nob shiner.

Actually the meaning is very obvious.  People are expected to believe completely and to obey without exception.  All of the stories are based upon those two requirements.  The stories themselves shouldn't be taken as reality.  Remember, Jesus used parables.  He never said that his stories were real.

The Noah flood story illustrates Jesus' parable in Matthew 17:20 about having the faith the size of a mustard seed and being able to move mountains.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...MP;NLT;MSG

Of course there was no global flood but the Noah flood story illustrates the parable in action.  Noah believed; he obeyed.  He did the impossible because he had faith.  

In today's world people have their imaginations and they get ideas for all sorts of previous impossible things.  Sometimes they are able to follow through and turn those ideas into reality. They didn't rely upon faith in an invisible deity but upon their own abilities and knowledge.   So from that perspective the parable is true.

[Pat Mustard]

You forgot to look for the secret code.

David played it didn't he? Unfortunately he doesn't put tracks on spotify.