The Bible, what's literal and what's not?

[Xyster]

God is not misleading anyone except those who want to believe He is. Christ has already given us signs to look for and He also told us that only the Father knows the day and hour. Therefore if I were to hear about the end of the world being on a certain day I would know to ignore it. The Bible may seem to be full of contradictions to you but like I've said before superstarr you know next to nothing about the scriptures.

God is not misleading people... YOUR RIGHT! there would have to be a god for him to mislead.... And the best thing to communicate is Sighns written in a book?!? Someone throws out some veuge passages that can be interpreted in HUNDREDS of ways .. and this is evedence?!?!? In that case the guy who writes daily horriscopes must be a prophet.... As the bible depicts god this guy/gal is a complete FAILURE and an asshole and of low intelligence.... According to the mythology everytime somthing happens gods first resort to solve it is usually VIOLENCE... that it a sure sighn of low intellegence... about the intellegence of primitive man...... well what else would you exspect, thats who made it all up...
But anyhow b4 you can even bring the bilbe into play you must first demonstrate a GOD then demonstrate what god it is b4 you can start throwing some "holy book" around and claiming it as evedence.

And if you want me to disprove YHWY .... you disprove KALI, unicorns and underpants gnomes.. tell me how you did it and ill use the same system to disprove your god........

[Godscreated]

How many of your posts should I pull up where you claim god has done this or that or some other shit. He cannot do anything you claim if he does not exist so stop trying to be a smartass. Believe me, you are no good at it.

You believe in an invisible sky-daddy because you have been indoctrinated with bullshit since birth. I regard this as a form of child abuse.

As many as you wish it's your choice. When I make statements they are not to try to prove God to you or anyone else they are statements that I know to be true for me. The reason I'm not any good at being a blankity blank is because I do not intend to be it's just your warped sense of reality. As for the child abuse thing more proof of your warped reality. I consider being raised in a christain church a great love from ones parents.

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God is not misleading people... YOUR RIGHT! there would have to be a god for him to mislead.... And the best thing to communicate is Sighns written in a book?!? Someone throws out some veuge passages that can be interpreted in HUNDREDS of ways .. and this is evedence?!?!? In that case the guy who writes daily horriscopes must be a prophet.... As the bible depicts god this guy/gal is a complete FAILURE and an asshole and of low intelligence.... According to the mythology everytime somthing happens gods first resort to solve it is usually VIOLENCE... that it a sure sighn of low intellegence... about the intellegence of primitive man...... well what else would you exspect, thats who made it all up...
But anyhow b4 you can even bring the bilbe into play you must first demonstrate a GOD then demonstrate what god it is b4 you can start throwing some "holy book" around and claiming it as evedence.

And if you want me to disprove YHWY .... you disprove KALI, unicorns and underpants gnomes.. tell me how you did it and ill use the same system to disprove your god........

Primative you say then why is it we can not build a pyramid or a temple like Solomen's. We can not even lay out the base of these structures as accurately as they did so who's primative.

As for your statements about the scriptures you know them no better than superstarr so why do you even try. I have no intrest in kali, unicorns or underpants gnomes.

Go on keep track of your daily horoscope and live by it see where that leads you.

I've never said the Bible is evidence that God exist, I said that God has shown me that the Bible is His true word. Xyster I'm not here to try to prove God to you or to disprove any of the lame characters you purpose.

[Minimalist]

Primative you say then why is it we can not build a pyramid or a temple like Solomen's

Sonny, there is not a single relic of any such building. In fact, at the time that your stupid fucking bible claims that "Jerusalem" was the capital of a far-flung empire it was nothing more than a one-horse little shithole of less than 1,000 people. Oddly, there was a temple of similar dimensions which might have served as a basis for the later writers to copy when they got around to concocting your fables. It is in Syria....at Ain Dara.

There is not a single non-biblical reference to any Davidic Empire nor to Solomon nor to any such temple.

The so-called "Conquest" was hardly a lightning campaign by the non-existent joshua but rather a series of destructions by various parties over a period of a couple of centuries. Xtian shitwits have been moaning ever since the truth came out. Sucks to be them.

Two hundred years of excavations in Egypt have failed to detect any trace of "Hebrew slaves" during the Bronze Age.

Jerusalem remained a shithole until the late 8th century when, as a vassal state of Assyria it finally began to grow.

That is REALITY, son. Your bible is fucking garbage.

[Eilonnwy]

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[KichigaiNeko]

Why would we want to rebuild the Pyramids of Giza or Solomans Temple or the Colossus of Rhodes or any of the other 'Seven Wonders of the Ancient World' ???

Apart from copyright infringements and the competition for the tourist $$$ why would you want to??

I am thinking padawan that you are confusing want with can

[The Omnissiunt One]

When God reveals things to me it's not like a normal conversation but at times the clarity and vividness is like He was standing beside me. Sometimes He uses situations to reveal an answer and other times it's like an idea comes to me and I know that it's a revealed answer from God simply because I would have no idea what the answer to a question should be.

Thanks for replying. It still doesn't bring me much closer to understanding your beliefs, but ta anyway.

Primative you say then why is it we can not build a pyramid or a temple like Solomen's. We can not even lay out the base of these structures as accurately as they did so who's primative.
As for your statements about the scriptures you know them no better than superstarr so why do you even try. I have no intrest in kali, unicorns or underpants gnomes.

Go on keep track of your daily horoscope and live by it see where that leads you.
I've never said the Bible is evidence that God exist, I said that God has shown me that the Bible is His true word. Xyster I'm not here to try to prove God to you or to disprove any of the lame characters you purpose.

Is there any evidence that we can't construct a pyramid? Surely with today's construction techniques, it would be fairly easy. Of course, it would be a lot slower, 'cos instead of slaves, we'd have overweight builders with prominent arse-cracks who need to have a cup of tea every ten minutes. (Actually, the pyramids weren't built by slaves, but by volunteers wanting to get a good afterlife. It just shows what people are prepared to do when they shoot up on the opiate that is religion).

As for your lack of interest in Kali, unicorn and underpants gnomes (whatever they are)... aren't we entitled to a lack of interest in Yahweh? At least if he just wore underpants he'd be interesting. He'd be relatable, if he were just some overweight guy sitting in his undies, scratching his omnipresent balls and eating crisps.

[chatpilot]

Christians are so full of themselves, all religions are wrong and either false or dupes of Satan. The only one and true religion is Christianity although most of the tales of the bible are nothing more than fabricated tales that they stole and rewrote from pre-existing ancient mythology. Not to mention all of the lies regarding the exodus from Egypt and the sojourning in the desert, one thing that the Hebrews were good at was rewriting history to accommodate their beliefs or their political goals under the guise of religion. In important matters of so called fact as in the case of the exodus they conveniently forgot to mention the name of the Pharaoh that ruled, and died with his armies in the Red sea (or is it the sea of Reeds?).

Even today they try to find archeological evidence to back these lies and have been unsuccessful, you have to give them an A for effort. When something seems ridiculous in the scriptures they relegate it to an allegory or a parable so as to cover up how stupid it really is if read literally, and to deny to themselves that it is in fact a contradiction. To believe that the bible is the word of this fictional god you claim exists is to stretch the imagination beyond logic and reason.

You can't prove your god exist because he simply doesn't, he is the product of ancient myths and beliefs based on ignorance and fear of many previous civilizations and cultures. I am certain at least to my own satisfaction basing myself on my own research and previous experience as an evangelist that god or gods for that matter do not and cannot exist. Of course we don't know exactly how the universe came to be or how life suddenly evolved on our planet, but god is not the answer.

[Minimalist]

Godschild Wrote: When God reveals things to me it's not like a normal conversation but at times the clarity and vividness is like He was standing beside me.

Psychiatric treatment may be able to help that condition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

Depending on the individual, a person diagnosed with schizophrenia may experience hallucinations (most commonly hearing voices), delusions (often bizarre or persecutory in nature), and disorganized thinking and speech. The latter may range from loss of train of thought, to sentences only loosely connected in meaning, to incoherence known as word salad in severe cases. There is often an observable pattern of emotional difficulty, for example lack of responsiveness or motivation. Impairment in social cognition is associated with schizophrenia, as are symptoms of paranoia, and social isolation commonly occurs. In one uncommon subtype, the person may be largely mute, remain motionless in bizarre postures, or exhibit purposeless agitation; these are signs of catatonia.

Late adolescence and early adulthood are peak years for the onset of schizophrenia.

You should be tested.

[Godscreated]

Primative you say then why is it we can not build a pyramid or a temple like Solomen's

Sonny, there is not a single relic of any such building. In fact, at the time that your stupid fucking bible claims that "Jerusalem" was the capital of a far-flung empire it was nothing more than a one-horse little shithole of less than 1,000 people. Oddly, there was a temple of similar dimensions which might have served as a basis for the later writers to copy when they got around to concocting your fables. It is in Syria....at Ain Dara.

There is not a single non-biblical reference to any Davidic Empire nor to Solomon nor to any such temple.

The so-called "Conquest" was hardly a lightning campaign by the non-existent joshua but rather a series of destructions by various parties over a period of a couple of centuries. Xtian shitwits have been moaning ever since the truth came out. Sucks to be them.

Two hundred years of excavations in Egypt have failed to detect any trace of "Hebrew slaves" during the Bronze Age.

Jerusalem remained a shithole until the late 8th century when, as a vassal state of Assyria it finally began to grow.

That is REALITY, son. Your bible is fucking garbage.

What does that have to do with modern mans inability to build such great structures.

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Guys, this thread was a quoting disaster. Quote vortexing and missing quote tags causing the wrong members to be credited with certain quotes.

Read and learn: http://atheistforums.org/thread-3560.html

Sorry I'll try and do better.

[chatpilot]

Godschild your arguments are as coherent as that of a severely retarded kid who has gone to Mcdonalds for the first time.