Old Style Evie/Why "gods" are bullshit.

[ApeNotKillApe]

[Little Rik]

[ApeNotKillApe]

The ONLY representations of God are those purported by religion, God has yet to represent itself and so humans represent it in its absence, and in the event that God does exist but all previously presupposed representations are incorrect, what still remains intact is Epicurus' representation of God as either impotent or malevolent, the former of which disqualifies the entity as God by definition.

[Little Rik]

The ONLY representations of God are those purported by religion

Religions can go around saying that they represent God.
That doesn't mean that what they say is true.
Only God can represent Him self.
I say Him because i need to refer to some entity.

God has yet to represent itself and so humans represent it in its absence

Put in this way.
Suppose your name is Paul Smith.
Some people pop out saying that they represent you.
But wait a minute Paul.
You never agree to be represented by these people therefore what these people say is all bullshit.
They have no right of whatsoever to represent you unless you give the permission to be represented by these people therefore these people shouldn't be taken in any consideration.

.........and in the event that God does exist but all previously presupposed representations are incorrect, what still remains intact is Epicurus' representation of God as either impotent or malevolent, the former of which disqualifies the entity as God by definition.

Epicurus is an other mental masturbator.
He can not read God mind whether God exist or not therefore all his guessing can well be flush down the sewer.  

[ApeNotKillApe]

Religions can go around saying that they represent God.
That doesn't mean that what they say is true.
Only God can represent Him self.
I say Him because i need to refer to some entity.

That also means that what you're saying isn't necessarily true, they might be right while you are wrong. How can you prove to the contrary?

Put in this way.
Suppose your name is Paul Smith.
Some people pop out saying that they represent you.
But wait a minute Paul.
You never agree to be represented by these people therefore what these people say is all bullshit.
They have no right of whatsoever to represent you unless you give the permission to be represented by these people therefore these people shouldn't be taken in any consideration.

I can say: "I'm Paul Smith. I'm being misrepresented."

Epicurus is an other mental masturbator.
He can not read God mind whether God exist or not therefore all his guessing can well be flush down the sewer.  

And you can read God's mind, right? How very strange that you, one who refers to people who think as 'mental masturbators' would be the only person in the universe that was granted such insight. How very wise and enlightened you are, that you disregard one of the most renowned thinkers in history without actually addressing his point and instead suggest it be flushed down a drain, the wisdom is just emanating from you, really.

[GrandizerII]

Oh, shit, Rik is here.

[The Inquisition]

He can not read God mind whether God exist or not therefore all his guessing can well be flush down the sewer.  

If you're claiming to read the mind of god, then your claims can be flushed down the sewer as well.

[The Inquisition]

[robvalue]

Very nice! I've mostly known the new Evie, but the old one knows how to kick ass

There are plenty of great arguments why "God" is a nonsense concept, many of which you've nailed here.

The biggest problem comes with people's refusal to stop after "creator of our reality". Seriously. Stop there, and we can talk sensibly. Wibble on for another hour about all these ridiculous qualities it is supposed to have and awards it has given itself, what it's not made out of, and a list of excuses why science can't find it, and the conversation is going to be difficult.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Wow you completely refuted me, I'm impressed.

Would've been more impressive if he managed to do it with just one sentence instead.

I was being generous.