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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:21 pm
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(January 13, 2016 at 1:02 pm)yukapuka Wrote: look at all of you shake in fear
i bet none of you even have the courage to watch all of it
your faith in atheism is shaking like a leaf in the wind right now
hahahahha
the final proof will be given to you in your death, clearly your all cowards and are making up excuses to even watch this
hahahahhahha
Yeah, hilarious, what a hoot. Haha. Ha.
Can you explain how almost dying qualifies anyone to say what happens after dying?
Do you put almost having a job in your resume? Because I sure as hell wouldn't hire you.
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:22 pm
(January 13, 2016 at 1:02 pm)yukapuka Wrote: look at all of you shake in fear
i bet none of you even have the courage to watch all of it
your faith in atheism is shaking like a leaf in the wind right now
hahahahha
the final proof will be given to you in your death, clearly your all cowards and are making up excuses to even watch this
hahahahhahha
Nope. They're all fakers. Snake oil salesman, looking for money and their 15 minutes of fame. Some of the most famous of them, like Colton Burpo, the kid who "Heaven is for Real" is supposedly about, have even admitted that they lied. It was all about the money.
Some "near-death experiences" are simply dream states, influenced by expectation and the biological failure of parts of the brain being starved for oxygen.
Not at all impressed or even vaguely scared. My Mother was the queen of threats of hell. Compared to her, you're pathetic amateur. I still have the scar on my leg, where she deliberately burned me with her iron, to show me what hell feels like. Threats of what will happen after we die - - you don't know either, you're just regurgitating the idiocy you've been told. I'm betting there is no heaven and no hell and no god. So piss off, little baby idiot jello-dick troll. You're not convincing or even remotely entertaining.
yukka yukka yuks all over the place I wouldn't shake in fear if you had a gun pointed at my head in real life, shit-for-brains. hahahahahahaha
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:24 pm
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That most certainly did shake the foundation of my lack of faith, meaning that the structure of the absence of a thing was unsettled, meaning nothing was shaken. Congratulations.
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:29 pm
(January 13, 2016 at 1:12 pm)yukapuka Wrote: Us Muslims is the highest point of faith
the Quran itself says that Christians and Jews will enter Heaven so we dont deny Christians and their faith, yeah they went into extremes worshipping a prophet, but that's between them and God , and nowhere in the QUran does it say that you must EXPLICITLY be a Muslim and only Muslims will go to Heaven
that is what is so great about Islam we are the ONLY religion that says explicitly in black and white in the Quran that people other then Muslims will go to Heaven
they however say differently , which shows Islam truly is the best of them all because it is all inclusive
plus Islam contains all the prophets that others accept and reject , again all inclusive
according to Islam we believe that God sent 124,000 prophets to humanity since the time of Adam(PBUH) till the time of Prophet Muhammd(PBUH) who was the last prophet so again we are the MOST inclusive
It seems the Muslim concept of hell resembles the Christian one, but I read that all people will be raised from the dead and then judged and be sent to hell or whatever. Does this imply that death, until the judgement, will be physically dead with no consciousness until all are raised? So in effect there will be no afterlife of heaven or hell until after this judgement. (Why would Allah bother with resurrection when they are already dead? It's an awful waste of time.)
The Christian concepts of hell are all over the place, some believe that death is physical with no consciousness after death. Others believe heaven is for those only that have been chosen by god. (Calvinists)
Some believe there will be a choice provided in the afterlife, others believe it to be final.
In Judaism, some don't even believe in an afterlife, others believe you'll only spend 1 year in Gehenna.
Catholics believe you'll spend time in purgatory, how long is dependent upon your actions in this life. They even sold indulgences to lessen your time in purgatory for a generous donation to the church.
So when you threaten infidels with hell, I really don't know what that means. Could you be more specific? Are you aware of the differences in Islam about what hell is, it's duration, etc. ?
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:31 pm
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Religious faith is belief in spite of a lack of evidence. So if I lack faith, I lack believing in stuff when there's no good reason to. I'm quite happy with that.
By showing evidence, you are appealing to my lack of faith, not encouraging faith.
Trying to show evidence, anyway.
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:38 pm
(January 13, 2016 at 12:53 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Even if they had no background in religion, I find it hard to believe that they had never heard of heaven or hell. the brain does weird stuff when it's dying. I really don't think visions from a dying brain count as proof of anything. The opinions of what heaven and hell is like will be different. Are there any stories about a heavily religious person having a near death experience, then promptly converting to a completely different religion? Probably not. If what they see is identifiable from any religion, it's the religion they grew up around.
Shit, I had a dream Sunday night that I and several people I didn't know were in a starship brig, only to be saved by actor JK Simmons. During the course of our escape, I shot lasers a la Cyclops out of my eyes to kill an armored-in-full-metal guard.
All of that simply because I saw a glimpse of JK Simmons at the Golden Globes just before turning off the TV and going to bed.
The brain does weird shit period. It latches onto random things in our memories and imagination and fucks with them when we're not in a conscious state.
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:46 pm
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(January 13, 2016 at 1:29 pm)The Inquisition Wrote: (January 13, 2016 at 1:12 pm)yukapuka Wrote: Us Muslims is the highest point of faith
the Quran itself says that Christians and Jews will enter Heaven so we dont deny Christians and their faith, yeah they went into extremes worshipping a prophet, but that's between them and God , and nowhere in the QUran does it say that you must EXPLICITLY be a Muslim and only Muslims will go to Heaven
that is what is so great about Islam we are the ONLY religion that says explicitly in black and white in the Quran that people other then Muslims will go to Heaven
they however say differently , which shows Islam truly is the best of them all because it is all inclusive
plus Islam contains all the prophets that others accept and reject , again all inclusive
according to Islam we believe that God sent 124,000 prophets to humanity since the time of Adam(PBUH) till the time of Prophet Muhammd(PBUH) who was the last prophet so again we are the MOST inclusive
It seems the Muslim concept of hell resembles the Christian one, but I read that all people will be raised from the dead and then judged and be sent to hell or whatever. Does this imply that death, until the judgement, will be physically dead with no consciousness until all are raised? So in effect there will be no afterlife of heaven or hell until after this judgement. (Why would Allah bother with resurrection when they are already dead? It's an awful waste of time.)
The Christian concepts of hell are all over the place, some believe that death is physical with no consciousness after death. Others believe heaven is for those only that have been chosen by god. (Calvinists)
Some believe there will be a choice provided in the afterlife, others believe it to be final.
In Judaism, some don't even believe in an afterlife, others believe you'll only spend 1 year in Gehenna.
Catholics believe you'll spend time in purgatory, how long is dependent upon your actions in this life. They even sold indulgences to lessen your time in purgatory for a generous donation to the church.
So when you threaten infidels with hell, I really don't know what that means. Could you be more specific? Are you aware of the differences in Islam about what hell is, it's duration, etc. ?
I have to say i am impressed by your formality and manners , kudos to you
Your right, in the Quran it says that we will be resurrected and enter Heaven or Hell in that state , but between the period of this life and the resurrection, we will be transferred to another life and dimension and body
We have three periods of life, the short life(or kind of like the baby years) this life, then we have the middle life which is not for everyone , some will experience it, others wont experience it and will actually be raised back to life on resurrection day and between their death and resurrection day wont even know about death itself, and when they are raised up the Quran states they will say "Who raised us up?" so even on resurrection day they will still not know about God and truth, resurrection/judgement day will last 50,000 years according to the Quran
and the final life which is the eternal life which as i have understood we will be entering in this kind of format of life, but i could be wrong i never researched about it
Now there is some given reason about why some people will go through different stages
Our Imams have said that some people will be purified from their sins at the pain of death (the hardship of dying whether they are murdered and endure a horrible death or die from a painful experience like cancer) if they dont get purified from that they will be purified in what is known as barzakh(purgatory) which is the experience some people will see after they die and that could last alone for long time, here they will experience either mini hell or mini heaven or a mix of both , if that is not enough to purify them from their sins, then they will be sent into hell fire upon resurrection to be purified , and eventfully (maybe after a million years or less) they will finally enter Heaven , bottom line is that f your accounts is left unchecked and you have sins that are not forgiven, you have to pay their price and need to be purified from them, no matter if you were a believer or not
in fact the QUran says that there is not one soul that will not go through/pass Hell
Others might skip the middle and maybe even skip the pain of death, and be resurrected and enter hell fire eternally or if they were perfect(which is very rare) they will skip the pain of death, enjoy pure heaven in barzakh, and finally be resurrected and skip even judgement and enter straight into heaven without any waiting
One thing about resurrected is that everyone will be resurrected to witness the whole universe collapsing and falling apart , some will be protected from its harms, others will die over and over again
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:48 pm
(January 13, 2016 at 1:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: (January 13, 2016 at 12:53 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Even if they had no background in religion, I find it hard to believe that they had never heard of heaven or hell. the brain does weird stuff when it's dying. I really don't think visions from a dying brain count as proof of anything. The opinions of what heaven and hell is like will be different. Are there any stories about a heavily religious person having a near death experience, then promptly converting to a completely different religion? Probably not. If what they see is identifiable from any religion, it's the religion they grew up around.
Shit, I had a dream Sunday night that I and several people I didn't know were in a starship brig, only to be saved by actor JK Simmons. During the course of our escape, I shot lasers a la Cyclops out of my eyes to kill an armored-in-full-metal guard.
All of that simply because I saw a glimpse of JK Simmons at the Golden Globes just before turning off the TV and going to bed.
The brain does weird shit period. It latches onto random things in our memories and imagination and fucks with them when we're not in a conscious state.
and that is WHY i posted a video of a BRAIN SURGEON ATHEIST who proves and declares that what he experienced had nothing to do with the brain , as well as the Russian scientists who also confirms that what he experienced could not have come from his brain , he was dead fro three days (murdered by KGB)
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:54 pm
Still busily lying for "mohamed" and threatening anyone within earshot, are we? I'd suggest that you go find your shame......but I think we both know that you have none.
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RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 13, 2016 at 1:58 pm
Does it hurt, pulling bricks out of your ass, sideways?
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