Pakistani Anti-Child Marriage Law ‘Anti-Islamic’ & ‘Blasphemous’

[mr_j936]

Then they will be executed by the state, and who gets the kids? But muslim women like to be beaten you are right, when we used to stage a protest for human rights, muslim women would stage a counter protest protecting the Islamic law...

Why would you want any children by the person you hate?  If you took a vow to love and honor the person till death and then hate him or her you are a liar and your vows aren't worth squat.  After all, you took a vow to that person, not to any future rug rats.  
  
So why would you want to look at someone every day who reminds you of the person you hate?

I'm not sure there are vows in Islam. And taking a woman's opinion in who she is going to marry? Definitely not Islamic... She's material goods to be sold from her father to her husband in exchange of a few goats.

[ReptilianPeon]

I suppose given what Quran 65:4 says, a law prohibiting child marriage would be blasphemous. Quran 65:4 say this "Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy."

The verse becomes clear when you read the Tafisr. And notice how the Quran describes the unborn as "burdens". What was Allah thinking...I thought embryos were people too and that's why we should restrict women's reproductive rights...

[robvalue]

This is why the idea of "objective morality" is not only incoherent but actually dangerous. To blindly copy what people did in the past, without putting any thought into it yourself, is to surrender your humanity.

Like Darkmatter2525 said in a recent vid, if God says something is "good" because it is actually "good", then the fact that he says it is irrelevant. But if it's good just because he says it's good, then it's arbitrary.

[ReptilianPeon]

Objective morality says "one size fits all". Which is stupid. I think science has a lot to say about morals but religionists would have you believe it does not.

And Darkmatter2525 is amazing. I'm surprised religionists haven't managed to ban him from YouTube yet. After all, they love to throw their toys out of the pram when they are refuted.

[robvalue]

Sure, science can help guide our morality, once we agree on the goals.

If we basically agree that human wellbeing is what matters, we can easily show that some things are bad for wellbeing, and the fact some ignorant old books says different is irrelevant. They didn't have the same goals then, clearly, or the knowledge we have today. They had goats and swords.

[WinterHold]

And, that is how Sunna & Shia keep demolish their religion, and keep dooming themselves and their societies.
From Pakistan to Saudi Arabia. Even boys are not safe, even boys are raped, touched, abused.

Sunna. So, 1400 years of utter defeat, God didn't give the world to them, he actually gave it to seculars. So imagine : how much are Sunna & Shia hated by God ?

When a dirty old perv is touching your private parts, and you're a kid, you have no way to think,act or defend yourself, how ugly ? It makes people grow to messed up, how crazy it is for a Muslim to believe the Hadith ? to believe the tales of Mohammed's enemies ?

What kind of view does that so called Muslim has, towards God ?
Shame on how they created their own God to satisfy their sick twisted goals. No wonder they are so many, yet as useless as sea foam.

[ReptilianPeon]

Yeah, American soldiers were told to ignore when Afghan soldiers sexually abuse children, particularly boys, because: "It's part of their culture". Maybe these Afghan are just following the Sunnah? They must have a reason for abusing children.


How do you know that all Hadith are written by Muhammad's enemies? Some Hadith are positive towards Muhammad. And many are neither positive or negative. Hadith are generally not reliable sources of information, sure, but to say that they are all negative towards Muhammad isn't really correct.

[robvalue]

It boggles my mind how Muslims can be so sceptical about the Hadiths and yet accept everything the Quran has to say without question. Well, those that do this anyway, which appears to be a large proportion.

Boy, the Quran is worse than I thought, too. Now they've started going through it in TBR it's like a total brainwash manual right from the start, teaching you to despise non-Muslims. Way more so than the bible. Interestingly, it appears to say that Allah chose to make the non-Muslims not believe. So really he's just picking and choosing who you should like and who you should hate. And who he gets to torture later.

[WinterHold]

Yeah, American soldiers were told to ignore when Afghan soldiers sexually abuse children, particularly boys, because: "It's part of their culture". Maybe these Afghan are just following the Sunnah? They must have a reason for abusing children.


How do you know that all Hadith are written by Muhammad's enemies? Some Hadith are positive towards Muhammad. And many are neither positive or negative. Hadith are generally not reliable sources of information, sure, but to say that they are all negative towards Muhammad isn't really correct.

I never said "all Hadiths".

Either a Hadith is positive or or negative towards the Prophet, is a matter of time reference. Meaning is, pedophilia was normal back in the past, so claiming that the Prophet had married a child is not actually an attack. My standard for a Hadith written by Mohammed's enemies, is how much the Hadith contradicts the Quran.

The biggest attack & the biggest insult to Mohammed, is demolishing what he preached. 
That said, the Quran didn't include a verse allowing pedophilia; the 1 & only verse that they use doesn't at all mention children.  It has no other verses to support it too.

[WinterHold]

It boggles my mind how Muslims can be so sceptical about the Hadiths and yet accept everything the Quran has to say without question. Well, those that do this anyway, which appears to be a large proportion.

Boy, the Quran is worse than I thought, too. Now they've started going through it in TBR it's like a total brainwash manual right from the start, teaching you to despise non-Muslims. Way more so than the bible. Interestingly, it appears to say that Allah chose to make the non-Muslims not believe. So really he's just picking and choosing who you should like and who you should hate. And who he gets to torture later.

Well, despising the road they picked, but not despising "them, personally".

I guess that what humans always do. Everybody has a road that he/she despises and hates. 
About the torture, that is something between the sinner & God. It's not me who's going to torture, matter in fact, even I am not above the threat. Nobody knows what would happen. 

So what is the Quran ? a super duper brain washing machine ? there is some logic rob that believers saw in that book, that kept the faith alive for centuries.
Muslims are not retarded. Some of us saw the world, heard so many opinions, yet still clinging to the faith.