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Near death experience of Howard Storm
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(May 25, 2016 at 10:54 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 10:39 pm)dom.donald Wrote: Well, I must admit, I haven't read every page of this thread.

But my immediate thoughts was:

If this guy had grown up in Indonesia, I wonder if he would have met angels, Jesus, or God in his "NDE"?

Anyone could have made up this shit. Most of us don't have the balls to do that and then try and sell it. Or we're not mad enough. So one guy does, one anomaly, and we're all supposed to take his word for it and use it as evidence that God exists? Give me a break.

There are thousands of stories like this. The sooner people accept the better. God exists, and everyone at the top levels knows this. They also know if they can suppress it, people will look to the state as god, and if no god exists, then we are just animals, and there is no higher purpose than what the elite want us to think. It's actually easier to manipulate the godless because there are no moral absolutes, so they can change society and values a lot easier. At the top, they all worship lucifer, at least for the most part, because Lucifer gives them the temporary power they desire while here. They don't push love, they are at war with us right now.

that's crazy talk. Utter tripe.
I so wish we lived in a society with Christian moral absolutes! (sarcasm)
I am thankful we *can* change societies' values, to get away from them.
Thousands of stories doesn't = truth or God.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(May 25, 2016 at 10:54 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 10:39 pm)dom.donald Wrote: Well, I must admit, I haven't read every page of this thread.

But my immediate thoughts was:

If this guy had grown up in Indonesia, I wonder if he would have met angels, Jesus, or God in his "NDE"?

Anyone could have made up this shit. Most of us don't have the balls to do that and then try and sell it. Or we're not mad enough. So one guy does, one anomaly, and we're all supposed to take his word for it and use it as evidence that God exists? Give me a break.

There are thousands of stories like this. The sooner people accept the better. God exists, and everyone at the top levels knows this. 


Yes, there are thousands of stories like this.

You know why?

Because humans all have basically the same brain, that will act in very similar ways to each other when under the stress of almost dying. 

People that have NDE's in other cultures DO NOT see Jesus. They see the religious iconography of the religion that they were raised in.

Quote:They also know if they can suppress it, people will look to the state as god, and if no god exists, then we are just animals, and there is no higher purpose than what the elite want us to think. It's actually easier to manipulate the godless because there are no moral absolutes, so they can change society and values a lot easier. At the top, they all worship lucifer, at least for the most part, because Lucifer gives them the temporary power they desire while here. They don't push love, they are at war with us right now.

The rest of this is nothing but unsupported assertions, in the guise of some pretty wack paranoid ramblings.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
Read it...nope.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(April 2, 2016 at 1:46 am)scoobysnack Wrote:
(April 2, 2016 at 1:40 am)robvalue Wrote: I give up. Carry on.

Trust me sometimes I wish it's wasn't true, so I could take certain people out of the equation. There are times I wish we were just animals, and could avoid the consequences of the spiritual realms. There comes a time of accepting what is for what it is. I found this out a few years back, and this information is essential to the human experience. The truth needs to be known.

Well good news then because it is not true and we are just animals. Feels nice to help someone.



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I don't know what's essential about all this, I've done just fine without any spiritual woo my whole life.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(May 25, 2016 at 10:54 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 10:39 pm)dom.donald Wrote:




Quote: God exists, and everyone at the top levels knows this. [Image: 8d958dd1bdf67046f699cdf062f50609.jpg]

Actually, it's a made-up "everyone at the top level" because you can't even give a NAME of your so-called "authority". And if there is a "top level" then surely they can provide some small hint of a smidgeon of actual proof that a deity exists.  Until then . . .  Bla
 


Quote:It's actually easier to manipulate the godless because there are no moral absolutes, -- completely incorrect, probably quoting some xtian preacher, they all assume that without gawd people would be happily raping and murdering.  Actually, studies have shown that atheists are more moral than fundamentalist theists.
 


Quote:At the top, they all worship lucifer,  -- no, we don't believe ANY of your imaginary friends . . .  Wacky . . . and what the hell have you been smoking?  

"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(May 25, 2016 at 10:54 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: There are thousands of stories like this. The sooner people accept the better. God exists, and everyone at the top levels knows this. They also know if they can suppress it, people will look to the state as god, and if no god exists, then we are just animals, and there is no higher purpose than what the elite want us to think. It's actually easier to manipulate the godless because there are no moral absolutes, so they can change society and values a lot easier. At the top, they all worship lucifer, at least for the most part, because Lucifer gives them the temporary power they desire while here. They don't push love, they are at war with us right now.

So can we just start telling you what you believe, and making little passive aggressive swipes at your demographic part of our narrative?

Or is it just you who gets to be content with just poisoning the well and nothing else? Dodgy
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
Everyone at the top level knows God exists, but they all work for Lucifer? What the heck have you been drinking? I can't tell if you're being serious.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
The NDE of Rebecca J. Anderson M.D.

There was darkness. Then my heart was started and I became aware again.

The end.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
Relative to the age of the universe, my whole life is a near-death experience.

I've not seen any of this magic shit yet. I've had a lot of freaky dreams though.
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