Near death experience of Howard Storm

[Whateverist]

I'll offer one last bit of advice then I will abandon this train as it heads towards the cliff face.

Rapid responses aren't much use when they are so rapid that you haven't taken the time to read what people have written, and think about your answer. One relevant, quality post is better than ten irrelevant, innaccurate ones.

Well sure for most posts.  But what if he includes a shit ton of clever emoticons?  Then reading and comprehension surely must be less essential, right?

[RozKek]

I dunno. It's kinda funny. Sort of like trying to communicate with a different species.

It's not my fault you don't read my posts before replying Rik. You're continuing a "discussion" I never started, because you read one word and then went off at a tangent, like you always do.

I'm sure your Hindu god will overlook this fact when it views the thousands of posts full of insults you have made, way before this "discussion" started. Way before one person insulted you. Maybe you'll be a coat instead.

According to his hindu god, Rik and everything else for that matter is an illusion, I hope the Rik part would've been true :v he's like the irrational schizophrenic voice you hear but with broken grammar and in text form

"I really shouldn't eat this piece of chocolate... according to experts it's bad for the body"

"robertooo, 

this life is an illusion, you're health is all in your mind

all u closed minded atheists , say this fake   , open you're mind roberto 
http://undergroundhealthreporter.com/min...ose-silva/ dr parnia , veri expert"

edit: huge text fixed, was my stupid phone doing it, can I also fix my phone with my mind, Rik?

[Little Rik]

At least this time I can not be accused of hijacking the thread.
Isn't it Roberto and little mates?  

[The Grand Nudger]

Well, ofc it's always someone elses faults..lol.  The only thing all your failures have in common...Rik, is yourself.  Yoga didn't teach you that? What good is it then.

[Little Rik]

Well, ofc it's always someone elses faults..lol.  The only thing all your failures have in common...Rik, is yourself.  Yoga didn't teach you that?  What good is it then.

Gee, this is a very deep philosophical thought Rit.  
I need some time to ponder and come up with some solution to your difficult question.

In the meantime may I ask you if any bell rung in your mind to see a very strong atheist like Storm becoming a very strong theist?  

[Incognito]

Maybe the near death experience is not real but merely created in our heads like a dream seconds after our death. The Brain is shown to still have a few minutes of activity before completely shutting off.

Try to switch off the light and see how many seconds it takes for the light to go off.
Not even one second.
The brain work in the same way.
As soon as the heart stop sending blood and oxygen to the brain the brain is automatically off.
No time to do anything at all.
This is science not the kind of bull that you guess.

That clearly means that the consciousness take over and again means that we are immortal.
A bad news for atheist pride but a good news for atheists anyway because we never die and
something great expect us.  

@Little Rik. Wrong, the human brain does not work like a light. Scientific studies has shown that areas of the brain are still active after death. In fact, in history, there were recorded examples of executed people's (by having their heads chopped off) eye's still moving and mouth's opening in horror. Therefore, consciousness, at least some part, does still continue to exist in the brain for some time. Therefore, it is very possible the near death experience Howard Storm had was just a manifestation of a dream like experience in his own head it was because his brain was still conscious.

Secondly, you accuse me of not using science and calling my theory bullshit. After that, you then ironically turn around and suggest that a magical man in the sky did it. Rik, you need to understand that just because we don't understand what happens after Death, or what happened before the Big Bang, doesn't support the existence of God. In fact, replace God in all your arguments with The Giant Spaghetti Monster and you'll realise how dumb you sound.

[Little Rik]

Try to switch off the light and see how many seconds it takes for the light to go off.
Not even one second.
The brain work in the same way.
As soon as the heart stop sending blood and oxygen to the brain the brain is automatically off.
No time to do anything at all.
This is science not the kind of bull that you guess.

That clearly means that the consciousness take over and again means that we are immortal.
A bad news for atheist pride but a good news for atheists anyway because we never die and
something great expect us.  

@Little Rik. Wrong, the human brain does not work like a light. Scientific studies has shown that areas of the brain are still active after death. In fact, in history, there were recorded examples of executed people's (by having their heads chopped off) eye's still moving and mouth's opening in horror. Therefore, consciousness, at least some part, does still continue to exist in the brain for some time. Therefore, it is very possible the near death experience Howard Storm had was just a manifestation of a dream like experience in his own head it was because his brain was still conscious.

Secondly, you accuse me of not using science and calling my theory bullshit. After that, you then ironically turn around and suggest that a magical man in the sky did it. Rik, you need to understand that just because we don't understand what happens after Death, or what happened before the Big Bang, doesn't support the existence of God. In fact, replace God in all your arguments with The Giant Spaghetti Monster and you'll realise how dumb you sound.

Inc.  

You don't get it, do you?
Your problem is that you start judging by taking in consideration big things that you can not understand yet.
Brain and consciousness are two separate things.
The fact that during someone life are stuck together does not mean that once the body-brain die consciousness also die.
This concept belong to the stone age.
You can touch the body and the brain but you can not touch the consciousness.
The consciousness is an abstract entity.
It can not be destroyed ever.
It is made of energy and energy is made of consciousness.
They are the two sides of the same sheet.
Even physics tell us that energy can not be destroyed.
Get real mate and leave the stone age mentality where it belong.  

[Edwardo Piet]

LR... ever thought about TONING DOWN the emoticons? You silly little football, you.

[Catholic_Lady]

I tend not to believe stories of near death experiences. But I don't think most people who claim them completely make them up, either. Perhaps they are dreams or our minds playing tricks on us when we are in a state of unconsciousness. Nonetheless I find them intriguing, especially when coming from someone who claims to have been a non believer and suddenly "change their mind" after their alleged experience.

My husband's mother is a doctor who works at a hospice and she says there have been times when her patients are very close to dying but still conscious, that they claim to start seeing things... like angels, loved ones who have died, etc. I'm not sure what to think of those claims.

[Athene]

I tend not to believe stories of near death experiences. But I don't think most people who claim them completely make them up, either. Perhaps they are dreams or our minds playing tricks on us when we are in a state of unconsciousness. Nonetheless I find them intriguing, especially when coming from someone who claims to have been a non believer and suddenly "change their mind" after their alleged experience.

My husband's mother is a doctor who works at a hospice and she says there have been times when her patients are very close to dying but still conscious, that they claim to start seeing things... like angels, loved ones who have died, etc. I'm not sure what to think of those claims.

I'm thinking morphine.

How ya doin', CL?
Nice to see you back.