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What do Christians Mean by "Restoe our Nation?"
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RE: What do Christians Mean by "Restoe our Nation?"
(February 2, 2016 at 5:43 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Well, according to the way I was raised, and to some fundamentalist friends who still talk to me now (ha) it simply means to return the nation to a time when it was almost entirely Protestant Christian.  A lot of folks still believe that the US was founded as a Christian nation.  They want a time when "god's laws" and "the laws of the land" are the same.   (They never were, but never mind that.)  Mostly, though, they're angry because the church has lost power and control and influence over the lives of everyday citizens, and they want it BACK.
They are identical to the Taliban nuts.
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RE: What do Christians Mean by "Restoe our Nation?"
(February 2, 2016 at 6:13 pm)Drich Wrote:
(February 2, 2016 at 3:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Well fuck him and you!

In case you forgot, dickhead, the founding fathers wrote your fucking god out of the constitution.

that not true. The simply stated that congress could write no law that endorsed one religion over another. that does not mean it is forbidden for religious rights or acts be taken by members of the government.
We demand voodoo ceremonies at all government meetings.
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I'm surrounded by people who think like this.     Undecided        Rolleyes

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"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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(February 2, 2016 at 9:39 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I'm surrounded by people who think like this.     Undecided        Rolleyes

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Because even stupid, ignorant people are allowed to have their opinions.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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So...... Drippy's real name is "Alice?"
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If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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(February 2, 2016 at 6:01 pm)athrock Wrote:
(February 2, 2016 at 5:30 pm)GodCherry Wrote: Response to the things you posted:

I teach my children to respect all people, including adults, but I also teach them to question authority.  I don't want my kids trusting completely in anyone.  Some adults are dangerous.


There was never a time when adults waited for marriage to have sex and a lot of people are choosing not to get married at all these days because marriage doesn't work for everyone.

Divorce is a very good remedy for a bad marriage.  I think the biggest tragedy was with women were forced to stay in bad, miserable and abusive marriages due to financial subservience.

Both of my female children get/got straight As.  My eldest works now in a STEM field...my youngest will be going to university soon in a STEM field.  They are highly proud of their accomplishments and their intelligence.  I don't know any highly intelligent kid who isn't proud of getting good grades.

Modern music....some of its great...some of it isn't.  Nothing has changed.  I understand a lot of music on the radio...there are some very talented young people around.

I really enjoy the variety on TV.  I don't want to watch the same thing as everyone else.  I don't want to do anything the same as everyone else.

Bottom Line:

Your version of past reality doesn't address all reason that the past didn't work for a large majority of people.  Namely women, minorities, homosexuals, other belief systems, etc.

You have a nostalgic view of a past that actually never really existed.  

When members of my family remember "the past" they remember a time when my black father, who fought and died for his country in Vietnam, couldn't even get a hotel room with my mother...the woman he was married to....because she was white.  He had to sleep in the car while he was on leave.  My eldest brother still remembers when, after my father got killed, my mother tried to look for a home in a burb and the real estate agent told my brother (who was 6 at the time) that dark kids would never be living in that neighborhood.

I know older women who remember a time when women didn't have the power to exercise their most basic reproductive rights and had zero power to request fair pay for fair work.

I know older homosexuals who remember a time when they were persecuted just because they loved someone.

To me, your version of the past is fake and the reality is that it was a dark, dismal time for many people.  

There's a lot of things that I don't like about the present but I would NEVER want to go back to where we were before.  What it wish for is more progress towards treating everyone better...not a time when a certain group of people enjoyed privileges at the expense of others.

I cannot agree with some of what you wrote (abortion on demand is NOT healthcare, for example), but most if not all of what I wrote could be desirable to anyone regardless of race, color, ethnic origin, religion, age, sex or sexual orientation. 

I'm an equal opportunity poster.  Tongue
Ever listen to Elvis and Johnny Cash? They're not pg 13 as you think. Johnny literally named a cocaine. And he was big then.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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