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Still struggling.
RE: Still struggling.
I was home schooled. I turned out just fine.

It's not like I suffer from any serious psychological issues like believing that I'm a turtle with mayo-making rooster or anything.
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(February 19, 2016 at 12:51 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(February 18, 2016 at 9:32 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: I dont know, i dont like calling 911 about anything, ive been told not to unless its a true emergency.

I dont know

It's there as a matter of last resort, should you be in a seriously unstable condition without accessible help, but you would do better if you can hold out for anybody who would help you without that. Are there any adults who you can trust regarding your medical situation? Is your half-brother an adult, and would he help you against your mother's wishes? Does your father even know what she is doing? Are there other adults who aren't stupid enough to think that using required medical treatment as leverage against a child to make him do anything, much less pay lip service to stupid religious ideas isn't a crime? If you show up on a neighbor's doorstep and are visibly unstable as a result of what your mother, whose legal custody you are presumed to be in is doing to you, then this is a crime to be reported, but it's probably best to find somebody who will get you to a doctor as soon as possible instead of call the police.
I didn't know whos post to reply to, there were so many. I have 2 options for a neutral. DJ, and my half brother. DJ is similar to my mom, in that I would probably be told the same thing. When I told him I had OCD and I would likely miss days due to an anxiety attack, he told me I just need to "tough it out, you are allowing yourself to be that way". I knew straight off the bat he doesn't understand mental illness/he doesn't take it seriously.
That leaves my half brother. In the case that I need it, he would help me, I'm pretty sure. He isn't a Christian so he wouldn't try and give me some spiritual advice to work out my issue, he would just take me and get me something to help.

As I said, homeschool. I am essentially stuck here in the house. The only time I get to leave is when my friends wanna hang out, or when my mom makes me go to church.

As for ways to locate the therapist. I'm going to try once more to get my mom to schedule it. Usually she says she will and never does. Tomorrow, if she doesn't have it planned, I will try and get some details. I'm sure some information is required to schedule an appointment.

I'm 14, turn 15 in May.

She finally scheduled it, I'm going next Wednesday, I'm going to try and get my brother to take me because I can't trust my mom to drive me there.
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RE: Still struggling.
Is it possible for you to "hang out with your friends" but actually find a way to contact your therapist? I'm pretty sure that if you found the number, called it, and said it was important/an emergency, he'd see you and/or would tell your mother that she's not acting in your best interest.

If you've seen the therapist within the last year, I doubt they'd need any extra info like insurance information. That said, a bill would be sent to your home, so it's not like the appointment would be a secret for long.

I get that you don't want to 'destroy the family' or blow things out of proportion, but mental illness is real illness, and denying you treatment may be a crime depending on where you live. You shouldn't be forced to suffer in order to make it easier on everyone else. That's not how civilized society works.

I dunno... you're stuck in a shitty situation all around. If you think you can hang on for the next three or so years, then try to do so, but if things get too tough you may have to take more drastic action for your own sake. The wants of the many don't outweigh the needs of the one.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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(February 19, 2016 at 12:45 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: I'm 14, turn 15 in May.

She finally scheduled it, I'm going next Wednesday, I'm going to try and get my brother to take me because I can't trust my mom to drive me there.

Only 3 years to emancipation!  Geesh, a twinkle of the eye!  My advice:

1)  Don't talk to Mom or Dad or anyone else (except, for us) about religion, including, your therapist.  Your private beliefs (or lack thereof) really don't belong in therapy.

2)  Use the Tor Browser to keep your Internet activities a secret.

3)  Consider seeing a psychiatrist; medication has improved a lot over the last generation.

4)  Just "roll with it"; give yourself and everyone else around you a break.

5)  Plan carefully what you're going to do when you turn 18.  "Get a haircut, get a job, don't be a slob."
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#5 is especially important. Do you want some form of college education? Do you simply want to find a job and start being an adult?

Homeschooling comes with a stigma. No matter what you do to start out, you'll need to prove you're capable of hacking it in the real world. For continuing your education, that means doing really well on your SAT/ACT, writing a good essay, rocking legit extracurricular activities (beyond church), etc. For employment, extracurricular activities help there, too, as do part time jobs (references, references, references).

Don't look down on skilled labor as a possibility, either. You can make decent money doing unglamorous things. Finding an apprenticeship is almost guaranteed employment.

Regardless, you're going to want to start planning now so by the time you hit 16 you can start working toward whatever path you think is best for you. That's when an actual school's guidance counselor would start talking to you about your post high-school life.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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(February 19, 2016 at 10:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(February 19, 2016 at 12:45 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: I'm 14, turn 15 in May.

She finally scheduled it, I'm going next Wednesday, I'm going to try and get my brother to take me because I can't trust my mom to drive me there.

Only 3 years to emancipation!  Geesh, a twinkle of the eye!  My advice:

1)  Don't talk to Mom or Dad or anyone else (except, for us) about religion, including, your therapist.  Your private beliefs (or lack thereof) really don't belong in therapy.

2)  Use the Tor Browser to keep your Internet activities a secret.

3)  Consider seeing a psychiatrist; medication has improved a lot over the last generation.

4)  Just "roll with it"; give yourself and everyone else around you a break.

5)  Plan carefully what you're going to do when you turn 18.  "Get a haircut, get a job, don't be a slob."

1: They already know, and always bring up debate.

2: I could, but there would be much to hide.

3: My therapists and I have already talked about this a few weeks ago, I will be seeing one when a position opens up and he can schedule one for me.

4: Rolling with it isn't my strong suit. If someone brings me into something I usually get involved to get myself out of it.

5: Plan on going to college. I kinda aspire to be an astrophysicist, biologist, or writer. Those are main interests.

With the debates I have had with my mom, she says "You have to seek the truth." under the presumption that the bible is the ultimate truth, I am constantly ganged up on by my family and they call my lack of any faith for a god stupid. My brother, dad, other brother(who is a pantheist and not a christian), and mom always quad team me and I get to speak and then they all 4 just bother me. If I say I do not want to debate I end up getting dragged into it/seen as vulnerable and I get harassed more.


Getting outside more would be just as detrimental to me because I would frequently be in anxiety and I would loose it. I've already "flown off the handle" more than once and going outside would increase that ten fold.

I have been ridiculed by my family for reading Richard Dawkins books, they say things very mockingly to me for having passion for things.

Although I love my mom she is going to HAVE to change if she wants me to get any better with OCD. She tells me of unproven/alternative health practices that do no benefit and she will not seek out proven/medical ones. She has told me to "get right with god" when I first complained about my suspicion that I had OCD, it was only after my dad took me to see my therapist that that suspicion was confirmed and I was able to get a little better, until she stopped taking me.

I am 99% sure that she doesn't know how mentally tormenting  it can be for anyone with any disorder. I wouldn't wish it upon even the worst scum of the earth.

I wouldn't call any of the above "abuse" but I wouldn't call it a good way to raise a child either. I can't tell if I'm unlucky or lucky to be born in this family. We have a distant ancestry with a president, James Madison, and we are financially stable. At the same time though my parents show off persistent flaws in their way of approaching mental and even physical pains. I am going to have to deal with it until I'm 18. Even when I told them I didn't wanna go to movies or church because of anxiety, they made me go 2x more often. I told them I'd like to be left alone, and I was "showered" with more attention than before. (Showered in this case is used negatively)
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Okay, I was watching armored skeptic and I looked at one of his videos on Joshua Feuerstein. He made some video about how in the bible it talks about how the mark of the beast will be accepted in the final days. The greek number for 666 looks like "In the Name of Allah in arabic." I first checked to make sure 666 was correct. It was. Then I checked to make sure "In The Name Of Allah" was correct and it wasn't. I did one with capitalisation and one without and it didn't add up. I tried researching more and I saw the "Crossed Swords of Islam" which explains the X, Xi, but doesn't explain the rest being inaccurate, Furthermore, I made sure that it wasn't some translation error. I googled Bismallah, (the phrase that is commonly associated with "In the Name of Allah.") and it too was different from the arabic language. So, even after being proved false, i got an anxiety attack. I believed him at first, but soon wanted to make sure. Was there something I did wrong and this coincidence turned out to be true, against my findings, or is this entirely false?
CLAIM: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uxkVleveW58/hqdefault.jpg - https://www.facebook.com/joshua.feuerste...369949681/
FINDINGS:https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=arabic%20translation
بسم الله - Bismallah Greek Numeral is correct I'm pretty sure.

-NOTE- He also draws parrallels to the bible saying the mark will be on the arm and the head, which Islamic culture places writing on the same places.

(February 20, 2016 at 2:35 am)GeneralDog Wrote: Okay, I was watching armored skeptic and I looked at one of his videos on Joshua Feuerstein. He made some video about how in the bible it talks about how the mark of the beast will be accepted in the final days. The greek number for 666 looks like "In the Name of Allah in arabic." I first checked to make sure 666 was correct. It was. Then I checked to make sure "In The Name Of Allah" was correct and it wasn't. I did one with capitalisation and one without and it didn't add up. I tried researching more and I saw the "Crossed Swords of Islam" which explains the X, Xi, but doesn't explain the rest being inaccurate, Furthermore, I made sure that it wasn't some translation error. I googled Bismallah, (the phrase that is commonly associated with  "In the Name of Allah.") and it too was different from the arabic language. So, even after being proved false, i got an anxiety attack. I believed him at first, but soon wanted to make sure. Was there something I did wrong and this coincidence turned out to be true, against my findings, or is this entirely false?
CLAIM: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uxkVleveW58/hqdefault.jpg - https://www.facebook.com/joshua.feuerste...369949681/
FINDINGS:https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=arabic%20translation
بسم الله - Bismallah        Greek Numeral is correct I'm pretty sure.

-NOTE- He also draws parrallels to the bible saying the mark will be on the arm and the head, which Islamic culture places writing on the same places.
It refers to the right hand, not the arm. Guess Mr.Josh left out that little detail. 

This is entirely unfounded, how has he not been given blast for this yet?
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RE: Still struggling.
Have you considered telling your mum just how damaging it is to you to keep pressuring you about religion? How she is making your OCD worse and making you unhappy?

Maybe tell her that if she cares about you, she should support you and help you get better, instead of worrying about what your religious beliefs are.

Seeking the truth is exactly what any sceptic does, anyway. You are seeking the truth. What your mum really means is just believe all her garbage and turn your brain off.
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(February 20, 2016 at 2:50 am)robvalue Wrote: Have you considered telling your mum just how damaging it is to you to keep pressuring you about religion? How she is making your OCD worse and making you unhappy?

Maybe tell her that if she cares about you, she should support you and help you get better, instead of worrying about what your religious beliefs are.

Seeking the truth is exactly what any sceptic does, anyway. You are seeking the truth. What your mum really means is just believe all her garbage and turn your brain off.

Not really, she would just see that as me being vulnerable and probably laugh it off. As I said, mental illness is not taken seriously.
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That is incredibly sad Sad

I hate my parents, the are shits, but even they would respond to me better than that.
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