Could atheist westerners, please explain?

[pocaracas]

Lol.
I sleep just fine.
In all man made conflict, follow the money.
I got none of it, so I play no part.

[Minimalist]

That said, The Arabs helped create this monster by trying to wipe them out when all they wanted was to be left alone.

In fairness it was the UN which created the problem by stealing the Palestinians homes and giving them to someone else.  One wonders if they did so because none of the victors of WW2 wanted a lot of jewish refugees in their own countries?

[Crossless2.0]

That said, The Arabs helped create this monster by trying to wipe them out when all they wanted was to be left alone.

In fairness it was the UN which created the problem by stealing the Palestinians homes and giving them to someone else.  One wonders if they did so because none of the victors of WW2  wanted a lot of jewish refugees in their own countries?

Give that man a cigar!

Yeah, if the UN was so determined to steal someone's land to give to the Jews . . . well, New Jerusalem, Bavaria has a nice ring. But of course that wouldn't square with the fucking 'prophesies' of their holy book, so it wouldn't have flown.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

That said, The Arabs helped create this monster by trying to wipe them out when all they wanted was to be left alone.

In fairness it was the UN which created the problem by stealing the Palestinians homes and giving them to someone else.  One wonders if they did so because none of the victors of WW2  wanted a lot of jewish refugees in their own countries?

The English are the main cause of the problem.  They wanted to steal Madagascar, Uganda, or Argentina as a homeland for the Jews.  The Zionists insisted on stealing Palestine.  So after making the Nazis the bad guys they were able to steal Palestine.  And that's where we are today.  

If ISIS never attacks Israel then we'll know that ISIS is a tool of Israeli terrorism.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

*shrug* My wife is culturally Jewish and she and I agree that the state of Israel has a LOT to answer for.

Just to be clear, Atlas: One can decry the barbarity of ISIS without automatically being a defender of Israel.

Boru

[ignoramus]

I'll hazard a guess and say that even if Israel or the culture didn't exist, it wouldn't make the slightest difference to the Arab sects who are happy to continue killing each other over the interpretation of their holy book.

Their holy book will not allow them to progress. Only western scum progresses!

[brewer]

In fairness it was the UN which created the problem by stealing the Palestinians homes and giving them to someone else.  One wonders if they did so because none of the victors of WW2  wanted a lot of jewish refugees in their own countries?

Could have given them Bikini Atoll.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

I've often wished we'd moved everyone out first and then given them south/western Texas. It's still desert-y and hard to live on, has lots of bizarre holy shrines, and they'd be totally surrounded by religious fanatics.

The Israelis would feel right at home, no?

Then we could send all the current Texans (except Thump) to Palestine, where they could stop bragging about having guns and finally have a reason for self-defense.

Sadly, since the Holy Scriptures say it has to be THAT particular piece of hardscrabble desert-y land, I guess we're SOL.

Because we have to keep all the Texans. 

[Thumpalumpacus]

I don't even own a gun! -- yet.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

I'd like to point out for the record that I was born in south Texas, so I'm kinda yanking my own chain, there.

But it was more fun to poke some fun at Thump, because I know he's good-natured like that.