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Could atheist westerners, please explain?
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(February 19, 2016 at 2:50 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-isr...st/5324815

The Arab/Israeli conflect is a battle, where Arabs got defeated, militias of humans identified as Zionist & Jewish, invaded the land of Palestine, and installed a religious government -claiming secularism-, and chose a religious symbol as the flag of the state.

Now, I have a deep question to atheists.
How does the west sleep at night, knowing that such lie is in practice?

Hey, nobody speaks about the Jewish militias that invaded other lands -under western support-, to achieve a mad religious interpretation, an interpretation that the so-called secular, non-religious world, is supporting.

Supporting to the degree, of considiring the Jewish state a red line that nobody can cross. I dare you: criticize them, so you may be called anti-semite and get thrown in jail until you pickle.

What's the difference, in ideology, between this Jewish state and ISIS?
How do we know, that ISIS is not a creation of this Jewish state; made to paint Arabs and Muslims with the filth existing in the Jewish Talmud ?

Like stoning homosexuals?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#In_Judaism


Quote:Torah[edit]
The Jewish Torah (the first five books of the Hebrew BibleGenesisExodusLeviticusNumbers, and Deuteronomy) serves as a common religious reference for Judaism. Stoning is the method of execution mentioned most frequently in the Torah. (Murder is not mentioned as an offense punishable by stoning, but it seems that a member of the victim's family was allowed to kill the murderer; see Avenger of blood.) The crimes punishable by stoning were the following:
  • Touching Mount Sinai while God was giving Moses the Ten Commandments, Exodus 19:13

  • An ox that gores someone to death should be stoned, Exodus 21:28

  • Breaking Sabbath, Numbers 15:32–36

  • Homosexual practices, Leviticus 20:13; both parties should be stoned

  • Giving your child to Molech (infant sacrifice), Leviticus 20:2–5

  • Having a "familiar spirit" (or being a necromancer) or being a "wizard", Leviticus 20:27

  • Enticing others to polytheism, Deuteronomy 13:7–11

  • Cursing God, Leviticus 24:10–16

  • Engaging in idolatry, Deuteronomy 17:2–7; or seducing others to do so, Deuteronomy 13:7–12

  • "Rebellion" against parents, after repeated warnings, Deuteronomy 21:18–21

  • Getting married as though a virgin, when not a virgin, Deuteronomy 22:13–21

  • Sexual intercourse between a man and a woman engaged to another man in a town, together, since she did not cry out (extramarital sex), Deuteronomy 22:23–24; both parties should be stoned

  • Sexual intercourse between a man and a woman engaged to another man in a field, forced, where no one could hear her cries and save her (rape), Deuteronomy 22:25–27; the man should be stoned

All blamed on Muslims, through ISIS.

Nobody wondered, how ISIS descends from the void, to do "certain things" that always, always, always, play in the interest of the Jewish state ?

ISIS, made every human hates the enemies of Israel: you got that right; now everybody hates Muslims. What an awesome favor they did for the Jewish state ! Ironically, they never fired a bullet towards them, their bullets are always directed at other Muslims.

Why the double standards?
Why criticize Islam so heavily, while ignoring a JEWISH NUCLEAR STATE ?

Here, something to keep you entertained:





You own the world, so nevermind Big Grin

Wow.. So this is what ISIS Propaganda looks like... It's kinda like watching Hillary Clinton campain.. (will say anything to drive a point) I'm sure if you fish this around infront of the right people, you will be willing to find someone who hates jews as much as you do. problem is.. In the 'west' they'd probably hate you just as much if not more.
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(March 1, 2016 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote:
(February 19, 2016 at 2:50 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-isr...st/5324815

The Arab/Israeli conflect is a battle, where Arabs got defeated, militias of humans identified as Zionist & Jewish, invaded the land of Palestine, and installed a religious government -claiming secularism-, and chose a religious symbol as the flag of the state.

Now, I have a deep question to atheists.
How does the west sleep at night, knowing that such lie is in practice?

Hey, nobody speaks about the Jewish militias that invaded other lands -under western support-, to achieve a mad religious interpretation, an interpretation that the so-called secular, non-religious world, is supporting.

Supporting to the degree, of considiring the Jewish state a red line that nobody can cross. I dare you: criticize them, so you may be called anti-semite and get thrown in jail until you pickle.

What's the difference, in ideology, between this Jewish state and ISIS?
How do we know, that ISIS is not a creation of this Jewish state; made to paint Arabs and Muslims with the filth existing in the Jewish Talmud ?

Like stoning homosexuals?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#In_Judaism



All blamed on Muslims, through ISIS.

Nobody wondered, how ISIS descends from the void, to do "certain things" that always, always, always, play in the interest of the Jewish state ?

ISIS, made every human hates the enemies of Israel: you got that right; now everybody hates Muslims. What an awesome favor they did for the Jewish state ! Ironically, they never fired a bullet towards them, their bullets are always directed at other Muslims.

Why the double standards?
Why criticize Islam so heavily, while ignoring a JEWISH NUCLEAR STATE ?

Here, something to keep you entertained:





You own the world, so nevermind Big Grin

Wow.. So this is what ISIS Propaganda looks like... It's kinda like watching Hillary Clinton campain.. (will say anything to drive a point) I'm sure if you fish this around infront of the right people, you will be willing to find someone who hates jews as much as you do. problem is.. In the 'west' they'd probably hate you just as much if not more.

Spoken like a scared child who knows they are wrong but refuses to grow up.

Hillary is not the totality of the Democratic party, it was around long before she held any office on top of our government having more than one democrat in office. She is not a perfect politician, there is no such thing.

But, as far as general ideas our party is on the right side of history. We value workers rights. We value livable wages. We value equal pay for women. We value a woman's right to control her own body. We value health care as a human right and not a luxury. None of those ideas are Stalin's communist ideas, or North Korean ideas. Those are very democratic western ideas. 

Our party got pulled to the right 30 years ago when Reagan started deregulation and union busting. Investment and unions are what caused the economic boom after WW2 up till Reagan. Unfortunately Democrats since Reagan, instead of pushing back, caved trying to compete with the GOP trying to prove we were not anti private sector. We are not, but the GOP has the entire time used the same old cold war scare tactics to force Dems to play their game, and in that 30 years we have been too compromising, and it doesn't help that our voters suck at midterms.

This is what I hate about even my own party, we get stuck on the short term and stuck on one personality, this is why we keep losing long term. The GOP thinks long term and about the entire congress, Dems dont. Hillary to me is still only one piece of the bigger picture. Congress and SCOTUS are extremely important to me as well. 

If the GOP wins the WH, you can look forward too more of a class monopoly, more money controlling our political system, an even more religious SCOTUS which will give more power to Christianity rather than the neutrality of the First Amendment. You can look forward to more gerrymandering and attacks on voters rights, and more attacks on women's reproductive rights.

You can focus on Hillary all you want but only an idiot thinks one person in our system of checks and balances runs everything by themselves. I would only say that that stupidity by either party can tip the scales to the point what the founders set up will be so ignored the Constitution would be in name only, not practice.

I am not making this about her just for her. I am looking at what the right wants as far as economics and religion, and what the left wants, which is better economics and protecting pluralism by avoiding pulpit politics, which is what the theocracies of the East run off of. 

No, she is not perfect, but no fucking way am I going to allow our religious right to replicate a Christian theocracy here.
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
Wait, am I Nazi now too? And a commie? And a tyrant? And a darwiniasticalist?
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(March 1, 2016 at 11:03 am)robvalue Wrote: Wait, am I Nazi now too? And a commie? And a tyrant? And a darwiniasticalist?

Yep, Christians love to equate atheists to dictators like Hitler, despite having the power to do simple google searches about Mien Kompf where he quotes God. Despite all the pictures of Hitler shaking the hands of happy Clergy and having military belt buckles that say "Got Minn Uns""God is with us".

And ignores our condemnation of dictators as atheists. 

It simply amounts to the crybaby suddenly realizing they are not the center of the planet.

Also ignores their own founders such as Jefferson and Paine and their condemnation of religious interference with politics. 

No Drich, we are not out to get you simply because we reject your god claims and holy book. We are not out to set up a godless utopia merely because we don't want the west to look like the Middle East. 

No Drich, we don't want to become Cuba or Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany or Kim Jong Un's North Korea.

We simply think you are full of shit on god claims and no, we don't think one religion or one tax bracket gets to make all th rules, that is why we have checks and balances and separate but equal branches of government.

Drich doesn't seem to understand their fear mongering tantrum is the same childish kneejerk reaction that causes Isis, to do even worse. The stupid idea that a god you cannot prove exists gave you top spot on the social pecking order. No Drich you are not the same as Isis, you simply have learned to ignore the violent parts of your book that demand you put non Christians in their place. It was because of people like Jefferson and Paine that America does not look like the Middle east.
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
-and you fuck dogs, Rob.  Don't pretend you don't...the genius who offered that appraisal sees right through your denial.   Dodgy
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(March 1, 2016 at 10:59 am)Brian37 Wrote:




Oh, my glob..

Dude, this wasn't meant to be about clinton. I meantioned clinton because to the feminazis she is da fuhrer, to her black voters she picked up a little 'sambo' (exaggerated black accent) tone to her voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxgL-v1MtIQ

she strikes people as being disingenuous because we know where her persona lies, and yet we can clearly see her change it as the situation demands. This has NOTHING to do with anything you wrote.
I was making the comparsion between clinton and this 'ISIS propaganda" because of the disingenuous aliance the OP is trying to forge with the 'atheists of the west.' By, showing how the Jews 'mock' your disbelief with their very existence. Meanwhile the OP has very strong feelings he poorly hides (I say he because their people do not allow women to have such thoughts, and speak them freely on line without permission) about the "west's" Authority in world politics. Again, much like clinton does.
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(March 1, 2016 at 11:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: -and you fuck dogs, Rob.  Don't pretend you don't...the genius who offered that appraisal sees right through your denial.   Dodgy

wow you are just friends with everyone!
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(March 1, 2016 at 11:27 am)Drich Wrote:
(March 1, 2016 at 11:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: -and you fuck dogs, Rob.  Don't pretend you don't...the genius who offered that appraisal sees right through your denial.   Dodgy

wow you are just friends with everyone!

Yes, because equating atheists to Nazis and communists is so endearing to us. You're one to talk.
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(March 1, 2016 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote: Wow.. So this is what ISIS Propaganda looks like... It's kinda like watching Hillary Clinton campain.. (will say anything to drive a point) I'm sure if you fish this around infront of the right people, you will be willing to find someone who hates jews as much as you do. problem is.. In the 'west' they'd probably hate you just as much if not more.

Says the man, who will vote Trump. I guess you're right, he hasn't attacked jews - yet. Probably his PR people holding him back.

Go, look in a mirror at some time. If you can.
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RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
(March 1, 2016 at 12:02 pm)abaris Wrote:
(March 1, 2016 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote: Wow.. So this is what ISIS Propaganda looks like... It's kinda like watching Hillary Clinton campain.. (will say anything to drive a point) I'm sure if you fish this around infront of the right people, you will be willing to find someone who hates jews as much as you do. problem is.. In the 'west' they'd probably hate you just as much if not more.

Says the man, who will vote Trump. I guess you're right, he hasn't attacked jews - yet. Probably his PR people holding him back.

Go, look in a mirror at some time. If you can.

Right wing Christians wont criticize Israel or Jews because when Israel becomes a Nation Jesus will come back to save all the Christians, and maybe some of the Jews, the Jews are just the limo drivers to the cosmic Studio 54, but they have to wait outside in the limo.
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