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What is our purpose here on earth?
#51
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
To piss of the theists.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#52
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
(February 28, 2016 at 1:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If you're an atheist, then I don't see why/how you can say there is any purpose to our existence. If you personally want to live for something, then that's a purpose to you, but other than that, I don't see how you can think there is some sort of grand purpose for the existence of life.

And that would be entirely accurate.  Good job.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#53
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
We all find a purpose to keep going.
You have found yours CL. To believe in something which brings you peace.
Each to their own.

It's not rocket surgery....…
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#54
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
(February 28, 2016 at 1:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If you're an atheist, then I don't see why/how you can say there is any purpose to our existence. If you personally want to live for something, then that's a purpose to you, but other than that, I don't see how you can think there is some sort of grand purpose for the existence of life.

Dead on.  But what I don't get is why you can see this about atheists, without seeing why it is that we don't see any objective morality either.

Oddly enough, I don't think theists really believe the meaning of life or objective morality either.  No.  Wait.  That's not quite what I mean.  What I mean is you seem unable to define objective morality or the meaning of life in anyway other than, "what god wants or plans."  But you seem unable to define what it is he wants or plans.  Thus, no meaning, no objective morality.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#55
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
(February 29, 2016 at 1:13 am)Jenny A Wrote:
(February 28, 2016 at 1:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If you're an atheist, then I don't see why/how you can say there is any purpose to our existence. If you personally want to live for something, then that's a purpose to you, but other than that, I don't see how you can think there is some sort of grand purpose for the existence of life.

Dead on.  But what I don't get is why you can see this about atheists, without seeing why it is that we don't see any objective morality either.

Oddly enough, I don't think theist really believe the meaning of life or objective morality either.  No.  Wait.  That's not quite what I mean.  What I mean is you seem unable to define objective morality or the meaning of life in anyway other than, "what god wants or plans."  But you seem unable to define what it is he wants or plans.  Thus, no meaning, no objective morality.


Is this really fair to all my posts about these subjects?
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#56
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
(February 29, 2016 at 1:17 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(February 29, 2016 at 1:13 am)Jenny A Wrote: Dead on.  But what I don't get is why you can see this about atheists, without seeing why it is that we don't see any objective morality either.

Oddly enough, I don't think theist really believe the meaning of life or objective morality either.  No.  Wait.  That's not quite what I mean.  What I mean is you seem unable to define objective morality or the meaning of life in anyway other than, "what god wants or plans."  But you seem unable to define what it is he wants or plans.  Thus, no meaning, no objective morality.


Is this really fair to all my posts about these subjects?

Well, give it a whirl.  Define meaning in life or objective morality.  If it's god's will, make sure you explain just exactly what that is and how we interpret it.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#57
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
And more importantly Jen, how the fuck he knows.
Anyone can make any stuff up at any time.

You'll need to prove to us MK that it's all real.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#58
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
(February 27, 2016 at 1:54 pm)thool Wrote: I'm interested in discussing this with you all here...

When you boil it down, humans exist for one reason only: to make more humans, either directly or indirectly. When you consider other animals, they reproduce in order to continue the lineage, possibly eat other animals, and provide food for other animals. Even at the top of the food chain, a dead animal clearly provides food. So they are part of a chain of dependencies. Humans are really no different in this respect, although the way we do this has far different impacts (a separate discussion).

If you do not have children, you still play a role. Your existence usually requires good and services from others, so you are creating demand. Your job may also enable the continuation of our species, such as being a doctor or teacher. Even if you do not have a job, you consume goods and services from people who exist, in part, to serve society.

Being an relatively new atheist, I no longer believe that we exist to glorify or serve something. We exist to make more of us.

I'd love to explore this more. Any thoughts?

I don't approach my purpose in life in such an abstract and general way.
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#59
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
There is no singular purpose for human existence. People who want to boil human existence down to one singular purpose are doing so only for a rather selfish, subjective sense of conformity.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
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#60
RE: What is our purpose here on earth?
I'm perfectly fine with there not being a general purpose for us. I think it's great that I wasn't created for something and now I must comply. I'm glad there is no plan from above, no greater destiny, no pre-destination, no calling. It's fucken freedom, baby! What do I want to do with my itty bitty time alive? I get to choose. It feels like I'm flying. Fuck callings and "meant to be" bullshit. I'm good with: they had sex, I made it to birth, I'm here, let's do this! Life is absolutely awesome!
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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