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Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
#51
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Hitler was elected President of Germany on August 19, 1934.

Idiot, running his mouth on something he hasn't got the first clue about. In 1934 it was already a one party system. There haven't been any elections. Hitler just took the office of president in addition to his chancellory. The last step to ultimate power.

Plebiscit North Korean style. This is what the author fails to mention in his article.
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#52
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Well, you blew both legs off rambling about German history.  

Hitler was elected President of Germany on August 19, 1934.  He received 90% of the vote.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-histo...of-germany

That wasn't an election. That was a plebiscite approving the Parliament's move to merge the Presidency and the Chancellorship. Hitler assumed the duties of the former office a full seventeen days before ... by agreement with the Army, in return for purging the SA.

Surprised that such an obvious fan of the NaZis is so obviously ignorant of their history.

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#53
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 2:26 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: That was a plebiscite approving the Parliament's move to merge the Presidency and the Chancellorship.

And only the NSDAP was in the Reichstag in 1934. Hmm, wonder how many represantatives voted against Hitler.
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#54
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
How many people would have voted against FDR becoming world dictator?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.ht...946294D6CF

URGES ROOSEVELT FOR WORLD DICTATOR; R.D. Blumenfeld, English Editor, Says President Can Restore Sanity to Nations.

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PITTSBURGH, Dec. 16 , 1933(AP). -- Pointing to "grave danger of armed conflict with Europe," R. D. Blumenfeld, American-reared English editor, yesterday called upon President Roosevelt to use dictatorial powers "to bring the world to its senses."
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#55
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 10:44 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: How many people would have voted against FDR becoming world dictator?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.ht...946294D6CF

URGES ROOSEVELT FOR WORLD DICTATOR; R.D. Blumenfeld, English Editor, Says President Can Restore Sanity to Nations.

[ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ]
PITTSBURGH, Dec. 16 , 1933(AP). -- Pointing to "grave danger of armed conflict with Europe," R. D. Blumenfeld, American-reared English editor, yesterday called upon President Roosevelt to use dictatorial powers "to bring the world to its senses."

What if all your weird fantasies were reality? I don't exactly shudder to think of your sanctimonious what-if politics, because there were some very good reasons why the events which you suggest may have actually didn't, and those reasons still work today.
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#56
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
Quote:PITTSBURGH, Dec. 16 , 1933(AP). -- Pointing to "grave danger of armed conflict with Europe," R. D. Blumenfeld, American-reared English editor, yesterday called upon President Roosevelt to use dictatorial powers "to bring the world to its senses."

It takes a special class of crazy to think that in 1933 the US had the power to do much of anything.  We were totally fucked flat by the depression.

In 1939 the US Army ranked 19th in the world.  Behind Portugal, as a matter of fact.  We weren't dictating shit to anyone.
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#57
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 10:52 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 10:44 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: How many people would have voted against FDR becoming world dictator?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.ht...946294D6CF

URGES ROOSEVELT FOR WORLD DICTATOR; R.D. Blumenfeld, English Editor, Says President Can Restore Sanity to Nations.

[ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ]
PITTSBURGH, Dec. 16 , 1933(AP). -- Pointing to "grave danger of armed conflict with Europe," R. D. Blumenfeld, American-reared English editor, yesterday called upon President Roosevelt to use dictatorial powers "to bring the world to its senses."

What if all your weird fantasies were reality? I don't exactly shudder to think of your sanctimonious what-if politics, because there were some very good reasons why the events which you suggest may have actually didn't, and those reasons still work today.

Why do you have such a problem with historical events?  The article shows that people thought that FDR would be the preferred choice for world dictator.  He didn't act on it directly but we are still coping with the things he did, especially in the Middle East.  On the domestic front he was as much of a racist as Woodrow Wilson.  His wife covered it up.  If it hadn't been for her he probably would have brought back slavery.  He did absolutely nothing to integrate the country.  If he  had become world dictator it would have been hell on Earth.
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#58
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 11:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:PITTSBURGH, Dec. 16 , 1933(AP). -- Pointing to "grave danger of armed conflict with Europe," R. D. Blumenfeld, American-reared English editor, yesterday called upon President Roosevelt to use dictatorial powers "to bring the world to its senses."

It takes a special class of crazy to think that in 1933 the US had the power to do much of anything.  We were totally fucked flat by the depression.

In 1939 the US Army ranked 19th in the world.  Behind Portugal, as a matter of fact.  We weren't dictating shit to anyone.
But the economy would have improved very fast once the US started its world conquest, just like it did as a result of WWII.
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#59
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 11:03 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 10:52 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: What if all your weird fantasies were reality? I don't exactly shudder to think of your sanctimonious what-if politics, because there were some very good reasons why the events which you suggest may have actually didn't, and those reasons still work today.

Why do you have such a problem with historical events?  The article shows that people thought that FDR would be the preferred choice for world dictator.  He didn't act on it directly but we are still coping with the things he did, especially in the Middle East.  On the domestic front he was as much of a racist as Woodrow Wilson.  His wife covered it up.  If it hadn't been for her he probably would have brought back slavery.  He did absolutely nothing to integrate the country.  If he  had become world dictator it would have been hell on Earth.

Why don't you read some actual history - don't be scared now, actually learning something isn't all that bad!
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RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 11:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 11:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It takes a special class of crazy to think that in 1933 the US had the power to do much of anything.  We were totally fucked flat by the depression.

In 1939 the US Army ranked 19th in the world.  Behind Portugal, as a matter of fact.  We weren't dictating shit to anyone.
But the economy would have improved very fast once the US started its world conquest, just like it did as a result of WWII.

World conquest in 1933?  Be serious.
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