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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 11, 2016 at 10:34 am
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What doesn't make sense?
If the (best) rules of morality are objective, they apply to everyone the same. People go around saying they know what these rules are, but they don't agree. So who should I listen to? You?
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 11, 2016 at 10:37 am
(March 11, 2016 at 10:24 am)robvalue Wrote: Based on what?
And in that case, God is irrelevant. We already know how to be selfless etc. Do you not agree that there is a subjective part to life?
Do you not agree that selfishness and greed and narcissistic behaviours are also natural occurrences? Is it not obvious that society in general seems to actually favor this greed through commercialiam?
Being aware of what is right in ones self in no way negates the need for oft reflection on what is right. Quite the contrary actually. Often recollection, study, reminder serves to keep the right thing close in heart, and as such; close at hand.
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 11, 2016 at 10:47 am
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(March 11, 2016 at 10:07 am)robvalue Wrote: To such people, killing someone isn't much different to opening a bag of crisps, in extreme cases.
Might even be significantly more satisfying. Who wants a bag a fuckin crisps....? Whatever happened to a good ole fashioned manhunt? 
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm
(March 11, 2016 at 10:34 am)robvalue Wrote: What doesn't make sense?
If the (best) rules of morality are objective, they apply to everyone the same. People go around saying they know what these rules are, but they don't agree. So who should I listen to? You? They do agree at their very core and can be verified through the selfless conscience.
No other man can make you act a certain way. But that doesn't mean you can't observe the writings of others and actions of others based on that see if it coincides with what you know to be true on a personal level without greed or want.
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 11, 2016 at 12:05 pm
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The selfless conscience? That just -might- be a contradiction in terms......
I've been observing your actions and writings since you joined, care to guess as to whether or not the things you say line up with what I know to be true on -any- level?
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 11, 2016 at 1:35 pm
Sorry pops, I have no idea what you're talking about now.
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 12, 2016 at 8:39 am
(March 11, 2016 at 12:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The selfless conscience? That just -might- be a contradiction in terms......
I've been observing your actions and writings since you joined, care to guess as to whether or not the things you say line up with what I know to be true on -any- level? I am sorta curious since you asked.[SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 12, 2016 at 8:40 am
(March 11, 2016 at 1:35 pm)robvalue Wrote: Sorry pops, I have no idea what you're talking about now. It happens. At what point did I loose you?
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 12, 2016 at 8:45 am
So God gave us humans our morality. OK.
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
March 12, 2016 at 11:06 am
(March 12, 2016 at 8:39 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: (March 11, 2016 at 12:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The selfless conscience? That just -might- be a contradiction in terms......
I've been observing your actions and writings since you joined, care to guess as to whether or not the things you say line up with what I know to be true on -any- level? I am sorta curious since you asked.[SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
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Nope.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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