Boin-ney, did I say it right?

[Ryantology]

If they are underpaying (or not paying) taxes, then they are only existing here because those of us who actually do pay taxes are subsidizing them.

Are you kidding me???
How many people do you think they employ directly and indirectly 1000, 10,000 100,000? How many make over 80K? Not to mention how many other companies who get no tax breaks do they sub contract to? how many people do they employ? and so on. Apple alone made 79.5 Billion in one QUARTER! 18 billion was what should be made taxable. the rest Apple dumped into production costs, which means 60 billion when into parts, assemblies, promotion, shipping, labor ect in just one quarter, all of which as it trickles down into it's various set of vendors and sub set of vendors get taxed over and over again. So in just 3 month's time you want to give away almost 60 billion in potential revenue, because apple gets a break on 18 billion in direct taxes?

See this is why we need a business man/Billionaire setting the taxable interests of the country, rather than some hippy douche. The Hippy douche can't see past the surface and will always go after and consume a few hand fulls of the visible peanuts. Rather than plant them and reap several fields worth a peanuts at the end of the season. Business is a delicate give and take, you have to give/plant before you can take. If you take now and don't seed your field then you will have nothing to reap in the future.

How much of that 79.5 billion was made off the backs of virtual slave labor, instead of paying a living wage to American workers?

What about service? Companies like Wal-Mart declare $100B in profits while each store costs taxpayers $900k because the company refuses to pay its workers enough to survive unaided by the welfare state. Lest we forget that the five Walton children own more wealth than half of the nation. That's arguably a much larger problem.

You want to have low wages and low taxes, a cake you can have and eat. I'm all for reducing taxes on companies that provide for the labor that makes their operation possible, and companies that don't enrich shareholders and executives by outsourcing to countries with no worker protection laws and putting Americans out of work. It's funny because I know of a candidate running for president who has done a great deal of that.

Trump is going to take the tax burden off 50% of the population all together. That is upto a 25% pay increase that fall in the 25/50K range! and upto a 40% increase to those who make more!

Better wages for the poor and working class would eliminate much of the need for taxes that go towards the welfare state.

[The Grand Nudger]

Companies like Wal-Mart declare $100B in profits while each store costs taxpayers $900k because the company refuses to pay its workers enough to survive unaided by the welfare state. Lest we forget that the five Walton children own more wealth than half of the nation. That's arguably a much larger problem.

Don't forget the double dip.....they build stores when they can get sweetheart breaks from county and state officials.  Still unsatisfied, they triple dip.. filling their stores with federally subsidized products.

...and then...people go and spend their welfare benefits and paychecks (including employees, ofc) .......at walmart...........

It couldn't be any better unless the Waltons were tying young girls to train tracks while twiddling their handlebar mustaches.  How did they get so big again, their claim to fame, anyone remember?  Ah yes, everything was made in the USA. 

[WinterHold]

[ReptilianPeon]

[Drich]

how  did "radical Islam" get into this?
I need to remind you, that the U.S is actually one of the best friends of radical Islam; radical Muslims were always buddies with the pentagon, American tax money used to pay their salaries; too.

The rest of your argument is moot after this statement:

Islam was not 'radicalized' till after gulf war 1 when Muslims began to move against civilians in protest to the military presence in Iraq.

Yes we used Muslims but only 4 out of 65 rebel groups like were considered to be religiously motivated until 1980 one more was added in 86. Al quida was not among them. the religious component was not added till after gulf war 1.

So Regan's use or the US's use of 'Middle eastern freedom fighters' was no different then than our support of Iraq's army against ISIS now.

If the west made a mistake, it was trying to force Sadam from trying to annex other middle eastern countries, and force him to extend basic human rights to everyone under his authority. Once we stepped in and tried to help the kurds and kwaities radical Islamic propaganda stirred the whole region and it became about religion. A religion that demands world domination.

[Drich]

Are you kidding me???
How many people do you think they employ directly and indirectly 1000, 10,000 100,000? How many make over 80K? Not to mention how many other companies who get no tax breaks do they sub contract to? how many people do they employ? and so on. Apple alone made 79.5 Billion in one QUARTER! 18 billion was what should be made taxable. the rest Apple dumped into production costs, which means 60 billion when into parts, assemblies, promotion, shipping, labor ect in just one quarter, all of which as it trickles down into it's various set of vendors and sub set of vendors get taxed over and over again. So in just 3 month's time you want to give away almost 60 billion in potential revenue, because apple gets a break on 18 billion in direct taxes?

See this is why we need a business man/Billionaire setting the taxable interests of the country, rather than some hippy douche. The Hippy douche can't see past the surface and will always go after and consume a few hand fulls of the visible peanuts. Rather than plant them and reap several fields worth a peanuts at the end of the season. Business is a delicate give and take, you have to give/plant before you can take. If you take now and don't seed your field then you will have nothing to reap in the future.

How much of that 79.5 billion was made off the backs of virtual slave labor, instead of paying a living wage to American workers?

What about service? Companies like Wal-Mart declare $100B in profits while each store costs taxpayers $900k because the company refuses to pay its workers enough to survive unaided by the welfare state. Lest we forget that the five Walton children own more wealth than half of the nation. That's arguably a much larger problem.

You want to have low wages and low taxes, a cake you can have and eat. I'm all for reducing taxes on companies that provide for the labor that makes their operation possible, and companies that don't enrich shareholders and executives by outsourcing to countries with no worker protection laws and putting Americans out of work. It's funny because I know of a candidate running for president who has done a great deal of that.

Trump is going to take the tax burden off 50% of the population all together. That is upto a 25% pay increase that fall in the 25/50K range! and upto a 40% increase to those who make more!

Better wages for the poor and working class would eliminate much of the need for taxes that go towards the welfare state.

what is a living wage?

[Joods]

Shit, $15.00 isn't even a living wage any more.

[Drich]

Shit, $15.00 isn't even a living wage any more.

why?

[WinterHold]

[Joods]

Shit, $15.00 isn't even a living wage any more.

why?

Well, let's use a real life example and maybe you'll understand. 

Mr. Smith earns $15.00 as a welder. He's separated from his wife and he pays child support of $185.50 per week for two children. He gets no overtime. This leaves him with roughly $285.00 after taxes and child support, to live off of per week.  His total monthly income after taxes is $1235. 

He has to have a two bedroom apartment so his children have somewhere to sleep when they visit. There is nothing available in a decent part of town for less than $700 per month plus utilities. 

Utilities cost $70 a month for electric, $60 a month for gas, $20 a month for water and $35 a month for sewer.

That's $185 a month just for utilities. 
He has to drive to work. There's $20 a week for gas in his car. or roughly $80 a month. 
Then he has to pay car insurance to the tune of $75. a month.

He is now left with a meager $195 per month on which to feed and entertain his kids while they are with him. He can't afford cable tv or internet. 

He makes too much money for food stamps. They look at the income before taxes and child support because they think you can still spend that money. Actually, he makes too much money for most programs and can't claim the kids because they live with his ex-wife. 

He's not allowed to claim his kids on his taxes, even though his ex wife does not work. If he claims the children, he will have to pay more support to her. 

He can't afford his companies health insurance, so thanks to obamacare, he now has to pay a "fine" or "tax" every year because of not having insurance.  
    
But you keep on thinking, Drippy, that you can live off of $15.00.