our end of the universe is going to really bloat out over the next Skewes number of years . . .
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The universe and eternity
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 (March 13, 2016 at 12:17 pm)IATIA Wrote:(March 13, 2016 at 7:40 am)Panatheist Wrote: I saw a link or two on these forums about an eternal universe. What makes you certain of this point (in bold)? 
I wonder...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
 (March 14, 2016 at 2:32 am)Panatheist Wrote:(March 13, 2016 at 12:17 pm)IATIA Wrote: If by "universe" you mean the stars, galaxies, planets, etc. that make up our cosmos, then the answer is no, it is not eternal. If you mean the matter/energy system that allows this all to exist, then the answer is yes, it is eternal. Unless everything disintegrates into nothing, how could it not be. If everything disintegrates, where did it go? The matter/energy that would be around after the expiration of our universe may be dark matter/energy or something else that we cannot even conceive of at this time if ever.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy 
Central galactic black holes are going to suck up most of the mass in the universe (eventually). Even now our sun (and solar system) is spiraling into the middle of our galaxy, soon (what, 10^50 years or so) to be snarfed by the BH there. Then that BH evaporates into feeble Hawking Radiation (photons) over another long stretch of time. And as those ephemeral bits of Hawking Radiation zip away from the respective BHs, they red shift and dilute and dilute, and dilute and dilute.
The universe is inexorably erasing itself. I'd recommend a big orgy before things dissipate anymore. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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