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March 16, 2016 at 3:21 pm
(March 16, 2016 at 2:48 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 2:26 pm)KUSA Wrote: Trump wants to build up the country.
Do you ever ask how and why? Do you take any politician at their word or is Trump the exemption because he appeals to your instincts.
You could ask these questions about any one of the candidates. How can I or anyone else put any plan on paper and run the numbers?
Since you like Hillary and Bernie so much please do this. Run the numbers on their plans and tell me exactly how the US economy will turn out. Can you do this?
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March 16, 2016 at 3:23 pm
(March 16, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 2:41 pm)KUSA Wrote: Indeed he did, at least if you weren't a Jewish, intellectual, artistic, gypsy, black, or free market German. And the cost to Germans, Europe, humanity, gays, and Jews, was astronomical. The Middle East, Africa, Australia, a new Asia didn't fare very well either. And in the end Germany lost. Hitler committed suicide. Germany was divided for over thirty years. Is that what you envision for America? No thanks.
I'm not voting for Hitler. I am voting for Trump.
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March 16, 2016 at 3:36 pm
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(March 16, 2016 at 3:23 pm)KUSA Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Indeed he did, at least if you weren't a Jewish, intellectual, artistic, gypsy, black, or free market German. And the cost to Germans, Europe, humanity, gays, and Jews, was astronomical. The Middle East, Africa, Australia, a new Asia didn't fare very well either. And in the end Germany lost. Hitler committed suicide. Germany was divided for over thirty years. Is that what you envision for America? No thanks.
I'm not voting for Hitler. I am voting for Trump.
You are the one who brought up Hitler. Hitler was both brighter and more presidential. It remains to be seen who is more dangerous. But Trump is of the same ilk., i.e. sowing hatred of the disenfranchised, xenophobia, racism, and socialism. But only Trump actually campaigned on a war crimes (kill the families of terrorists) platform. Besides, he cheats at golf.?
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RE: Can Trump Win....
March 16, 2016 at 3:37 pm
(March 16, 2016 at 2:02 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 1:57 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Its America, home of the dumb, of course he can win.
At the moment, hatred sells extremely well in many regions of the world. He could win virtually everywhere, using the right scapegoats.
It's always the same sick game. Give the scum someone to kick, tell them they're special for some reason, promise them everything will be fine and dandy if a particular group is removed from society and fuck them over in the meantime. Oh, and don't forget to wave the flag of your choice. Nationalism raises it's turdhead again, after all.
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March 16, 2016 at 3:38 pm
(March 16, 2016 at 2:41 pm)KUSA Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 2:28 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Hitler built up his country as well.
Amusing coming from a Trump supporter. I suppose the irony is lost on you.
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March 16, 2016 at 3:55 pm
Up until this Trump campaign, I thought republicans were a lost cause. That it appears we have a common enemy in Trump is allowing Republicans to either show their true colors, or reinvent their public persona and create much needed distance from their past (there's a tinge of conspiracy in me that thinks this could be the point, but I ignore it), even if that's just a difference in the public eye. I've been enjoying the agreement between most democrats and most republicans on this issue. And yes, I'm referring to Trump as an issue.
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March 16, 2016 at 4:05 pm
(March 16, 2016 at 3:37 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Göring
Yes, I posted that beauty a few times myself. Say what you will about Göring, he certainly wasn't an idiot.
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March 16, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Look. I have never voted for either Bush but I've voted for other republicans. Neither party is clean. But Trump is beyond dirty. Trump is an egotistical shallow thinker, and I use the term thinker broadly. Trump is for Trump and the hell with anyone else. Plus he cheats at golf, and cheats his partners. If we elect him, we will be those cheated partners.
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RE: Can Trump Win....
March 16, 2016 at 4:31 pm
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It is bad news for Trump and the GOP, and the history shows when either party gets as divided as the GOP is in this election, by the time the nominee gets to the general, they are damaged goods. That has played out for BOTH parties the same way.
I don't think Trump will get the nomination, I think far too many independents and establishment voters think he is nuts. But either way that party is severely fractured no matter who wins. Trump would be a easier gift for Democrats.
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RE: Can Trump Win....
March 16, 2016 at 4:34 pm
The most recent polls between Clinton and Trump even the FOX poll has Clinton up by 5 outside the margin of error. Most of them are even higher.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...-5491.html
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