Can Trump Win....

[Jackie]

Might be more appropriate to compare Trump to Communist china.  He seems to be a big fan, and called Tiananmen Square a fucking riot.  

That should scare the fuck out of people.

Trump and the GOP and the 1% masturbate at the prospect of replicating China's authoritarian capitalism here.

[abaris]

Trump and the GOP and the 1% masturbate at the prospect of replicating China's authoritarian capitalism here.

Yeah, China kind of combines the worst of both worlds. Unchained capitalism and an authoritarian regime. I wouldn't even call it communist, since communism at least offered social security, which China doesn't.

[Jackie]

Trump and the GOP and the 1% masturbate at the prospect of replicating China's authoritarian capitalism here.

Yeah, China kind of combines the worst of both worlds. Unchained capitalism and an authoritarian regime. I wouldn't even call it communist, since communism at least offered social security, which China doesn't.

This is the problem with ALL forms of ideology, be they political, or religious  or economic views.

ALL OF THEM point to the benefits, but the problem is they all get sold as cures and utopias, and the reality is humans are never simplistic labels, which is why cookie cutters don't work. Parts may have benefits, but even then, what works at one point may not work for ever and nobody ever agrees in the mass of the entire nation 100% of the time.

So my attitude his mixed economies and bans on all monopolies, be they political or religious or economic or class, with the attitude that you change when the conditions change. 

Closed markets like China ARE successful, and Saudi Arabia is not a poor nation. But they do all invest in the global market. My only objection to the current conditions of America, isn't the private sector, but the attitude of far too much of the top. 

Anything humans do, and every aspect of life, can become abusive. That is why I am no fan of "one size" and "either/or" but case by case and balance that allows for some inequity but not lopsided, with the attitude that a chain is as only as strong as it's weakest link. 

Right now things are way out of whack and far too much power has been given to one class. NO you cant get rid of the private sector, but right now, the corporate world is abusive.

[Jackie]

[Minimalist]

I assume that business will always do the wrong thing.

[Jackie]

I assume that business will always do the wrong thing.

It is not business, it is simply human ego. Humans evolved to seek patterns, and when they think something works, and they get used to replicating their success, they don't want that threat to their resources challenged. 

I have certainly worked for very wonderful businesses who treated me well. But the bigger something becomes, the harder it can get to keep it on a leash.

[Minimalist]

[abaris]

 

I have certainly worked for very wonderful businesses who treated me well. But the bigger something becomes, the harder it can get to keep it on a leash.

That's why I always make a distinction between a free market and capitalism. Capitalism is an ideology like every other. It's the religion of greed, if you so wish. A free market is business competing. Capitalism is big business buying out the competition, to the detriment of the customers and the employees.

What we face now isn't a free market anymore, since there's hardly any competition going on in certain fields. It's worst when different media outlets are owned by one big corporation, since it's a direct attack on the freedom of press. These last two or three decades we've moved rapidly towards corporacy. And the ones running the show get away with almost everything scots free as 2008 has shown in a very painful manner.

[Minimalist]

[Jackie]