Islam in Europe: perception and reality

[abaris]

Today Muslims are taking over Europe and violate our Western law, but authorities try to act as if nothing happened and do nothing, of course in the name of fighting off prejudice or somehow racism.

I'm already shivering in fear of the 3 to 5 percent taking over Europe. This board was desperately in need of another ignorant and uninformed bigot.

[robvalue]

I agree that if a Muslim sharia type sub-culture develops anywhere in a secular country, every reasonable effort should be made to halt it, and to return proper law and order to that particular area.

However, holding people possibly accountable for this in advance is not going to help, and seems likely to further divide our cultures. "You look like a Muslim, you're not coming in" is about the worst strategy I can imagine.

I'm not suggesting Dayron is proposing the above. I'm not sure exactly what he's proposing. Hi Dayron, welcome You jumped right into the fire I see

[Heat]

Muslim refugees should be deported back to their countries, whereas Muslim citizens should be at least deprived of citizenship.
Islam is an ideology completely opposite to European standards and ethics. Tolerance for Muslims who truly believe in Quran (which states e.g. that Allah allows Muslims to rape infidel women with impunity and deprive them of their dignity) is just like tolerating Nazis who are devoted to Mein Kampf and believe that non-Aryans should disappear. Nazis during WW2 were killing whoever they wanted in the name of Aryan supremacy. Today Muslims are taking over Europe and violate our Western law, but authorities try to act as if nothing happened and do nothing, of course in the name of fighting off prejudice or somehow racism. Muslim population in Europe has created numerous ghettos, not as a result of discrimination, but due to severe cultural differences. There is no assimilation, thus multiculturalism doesn't work, in terms of Muslims. However, Asians or simple Africans have no problem with integrating with others. 

A firm policy should be imposed on dangerous Muslim minorities. Cologne, Brussels, Paris, London, Boston, Sydney, San Bernardino, Madrid, Copenhagen.
How much blood yet needs to be shed for liberals to acknowledge that Islam is a threat to Western civilization?

Yeah we went after the Nazi's who committed the crimes not the people who bought in to it.

If someone wanted to cherish Mein Kampf in this day and age I don't give a flying fuck. No matter what way you try to twist and turn it, you're trying to prosecute people for ideas as if they are actions. Not only is that unconstitutional, it's immoral, and subconsciously hypocritical. You are pathetic. Look at yourself, cowering in fear over an ideology that you disagree with. How sad that we've reached the state as a country where we suggest deporting people who aren't inherently "like" us. How sad that we've reached a state where we stop seeing people as people but as violent criminals waiting to strike. How sad that as a society we've made a conscious decision to identify people by their religion, before identifying them as humans. How fucking sad that I have to sit here explaining to someone why we shouldn't prosecute every Muslim in our society for terrorist acts they have not and likely will not commit. 

When did we decide to start playing god with the less fortunate?

[Drich]

Drich the Guy who points out your life currently is being provided by slaves, and that you by living in society also condone slavery, you just like to call it by a different name.

awww.. did you just for the first time understand the sum total of my argument?

[Drich]

Drich the Guy who points out your life currently is being provided by slaves, and that you by living in society also condone slavery, you just like to call it by a different name.

And Drich condoning it, since the OT is condoning it too. That's the difference between you and many of us. We are well aware of the problem, but we're not OK with it existing.

talk to your buddy 'heat' he is still in denial.

Also know my argument states if we all own up to our role in modern slavery, we can amend the working conditions and probably abolish all evil out of this practice if we demand (and are willing to Pay) for the changes.

But again, if we just keep pretending it has been abolished like heat is doing then companies who own and operate with slaves are free to treat them any way they like... So when is that a good thing? A money motivated company left to their own devices to regulate themselves concerning the greater good verse profits???

You want real change own up to your role and spread the message. awareness is the first step!

[Drich]

And Drich condoning it, since the OT is condoning it too. That's the difference between you and many of us. We are well aware of the problem, but we're not OK with it existing.

Yet he would still suggest that either we leave society and everything material completely and go live in butt-fuck antartica or else we are willingly condoning slavery. This was all explained to him on the actual huge thread where we discussed it on, but he continuously denied these points, and insisted his bullshit was correct. It's the racist mentality, racists tend to go around thinking "Well everyone else is probably a little bit racist too, right?".

Ah.. no.

see the above post.

What I said is unless you only use what you yourself can produce and if you are dependent on society to provide you with anything, then know a slave has left his finger prints somewhere on that product at some point between it's creation to it's delivery to you.

I say that to force accountability in everything you use or consume that society provides.

Now instead of feeling sorry for yourself, and lashing out pretending you are not apart of the modern slave trade, you could do you part and acknowledge your roll and bring awareness to this problem.

[abaris]

You want real change own up to your role and spread the message. awareness is the first step!

I spread the message all right. Just not your message of abolishing the evil out of the practice, but to abolish the practice itself.

[Drich]

So what are your standards for determining who is a True Muslim®?

Pinprick attacks do not a threat amount to. Hundreds of people die yearly in plane crashes, yet do you campaign against aircraft?

Watch and see who pray 5 times aday, See who forces the women in his life to live under 'cover' See who visits a mosk. Infiltrate the mosque and see what actually being taught. If Sheria Law is taught before the law of the land, then in those dedicated members you have a potential time bomb. If a 'mosque' has any ties to terror groups (like the one obama visited) deport them and their members. Push the see something say something to include hidden mosks. (they fear persecution for studying 'true Islam.')

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...-ties.html

[abaris]

Watch and see who pray 5 times aday, See who forces the women in his life to live under 'cover' See who visits a mosk. Infiltrate the mosque and see what actually being taught. If Sheria Law is taught before the law of the land, then in those dedicated members you have a potential time bomb. If a 'mosque' has any ties to terror groups (like the one obama visited) deport them and their members. Push the see something say something to include hidden mosks. (they fear persecution for studying 'true Islam.')

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...-ties.html

Yes, Fox news as the cherry on top of the broadbrushing. I bet you never saw a real living muslim in your whole life. Otherwise you would know this to be bullshit.

And I can only smile at the irony of who's making these statements. The very person waving the OT with all it's atrocities in our faces. Believing it to be the truth and nothing but the truth.

[Thumpalumpacus]

So what are your standards for determining who is a True Muslim®?

Pinprick attacks do not a threat amount to. Hundreds of people die yearly in plane crashes, yet do you campaign against aircraft?

Watch and see who pray 5 times aday, See who forces the women in his life to live under 'cover' See who visits a mosk. Infiltrate the mosque and see what actually being taught. If Sheria Law is taught before the law of the land, then in those dedicated members you have a potential time bomb. If a 'mosque' has any ties to terror groups (like the one obama visited) deport them and their members. Push the see something say something to include hidden mosks. (they fear persecution for studying 'true Islam.')

Yes, because you are the authority on determining who is and isn't a True Muslim®.

You're not even an authority on your own faith.