Islam in Europe: perception and reality

[Drich]

[abaris]

Care to enlighten us on the bible passages, you love to quote so much, Drippy? They are fucking commands also, isn't it? At least for you they are, as you're4 not tiring to say. Do you go out to do all the things written there, if something happens, your god considers an abomination?

Btw, what exactly is your experience with Europe in any shape, way or form, that makes you an authority to judge? I mean, other than having met a few Greek businessmen confirming your notion that Greeks are slackers.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Oh, I see has fallen off the wagon and resumed his abuse of the lolsmiley.

[Crossless2.0]

What a surprise that a textual fundamentalist Christian would read the Koran like a textual fundamentalist Muslim might, ignoring that there are other ways to approach religious literature. Just as there are Christians who don't approach the Bible with Drich's preconceived ideas about how it is to be read and interpreted, so there are Muslims who don't fit neatly into his caricature of what Muslims are or should be. I assume he'd apply the No True Scotsman argument to Muslims who are more liberal in their reading of the Koran than others are with the same arrogant lack of hesitation he brings to the table when discussing other Christians.

[scoobysnack]

What measures do you propose?

That's a tough one and there is no one answer that everyone will agree with.

I would say people need to stop feeling guilty and obligated to let everyone into their countries. Obama and Hillary continued the campaign started by Bush and the neo-conservitives to essentially dismantle leadership in northern Africa and the middle east. The whole "moderate rebels" were armed and funded by the US to act a proxy army to decapitate leaders in certain countries. This has helped lead to the rise of ISIS. Muslims have been the victims of ISIS more than anyone. How has this ideology erupted in Islam and allowed to hide among supporters in various communities? They do have some support among the general population, even in Europe.

[robvalue]

So, when you say stop letting everyone in...

What are you proposing? Cut down in general on immigration numbers? Or use some new criteria? Stop immigration completely?

I understand you're trying to say "let less terrorists in", and ideally we would all want that. But there's the very obvious problem is that we don't know who they are. So what actual strategy would help?

[scoobysnack]

[abaris]

[scoobysnack]

[abaris]

Barring the fact, you still miss the point by a lightyear, since we're not talking about immigration but asylum seekers.