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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 4:56 am
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If it had been a proof in 7 or 5*5 statements or so I would have been more convinced. 20 seems like a not very godly and arbitrary number. Shouldn't the proof of God have a nice number of steps?
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 5:02 am
(April 1, 2016 at 4:49 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'm with Alex on this.
Quote:There are no uncaused things
What does this actually mean ? Aside from the statement being vague enough to not be utile, it may very well be false.
Boru
... and if it's true, what caused the Causer?
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 5:15 am
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(April 1, 2016 at 5:02 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (April 1, 2016 at 4:49 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'm with Alex on this.
What does this actually mean ? Aside from the statement being vague enough to not be utile, it may very well be false.
Boru
... and if it's true, what caused the Causer?
Nothing. And for that to work you have to argue that the Causer is not a thing
Welcome to atheism! Proven in one step, which is much better than 20. 
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 5:49 am
That OP made my head hurt.
I'm telling!!
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 8:04 am
God of the gaps everytime. "We don't know the answer, therefore geud". "We don't see another answer, therefore jebus". Like Rob said: arguments aren't evidence for god.
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 8:06 am
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I think we've heard all we're going to get now, so let's take a vote. If you think God doesn't exist, raise your left hand. If you don't think God does exist, raise your right and your left hand.
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 8:10 am
Ignoramus, you missed the second verse.
2,4,6,8, bog in don't wait.
Wrap your legs around the table,
Fill your belly while your able. :-)
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 8:22 am
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God does not talk to me; if he/she/it did, I would talk back to him/her/it.
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 4:06 pm
Thanks guys (and gals) for taking the time to respond.
For those arguing the no uncaused things /quantum fluctuations, etc. premise, this was addressed in notes (i), (ii) and (iii) of the proof.
I'll keep checking back for more responses.
Oh, I did copy and paste the proof from my own website (which I can't post here as I'm a newbie). I do explain more on the proof and Gödel there (the website).
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RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 4:11 pm
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(April 1, 2016 at 4:06 pm)smfortune Wrote: Thanks guys (and gals) for taking the time to respond.
For those arguing the no uncaused things /quantum fluctuations, etc. premise, this was addressed in notes (i), (ii) and (iii) of the proof.
That's not what we argued. You need to establish what the word means in the context, and then that the premise so defined is true.
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