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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 1:39 am
(April 15, 2016 at 5:39 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 15, 2016 at 5:27 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: EXHIBIT A:
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That's all you got? Seeing how none of you can say for a fact God doesn't exist, you'd better come with something better than that.
Actually, that's not true. The god of the Bible does not and cannot exist for the same reason square circles cannot exist. A thing that actually exists cannot have mutually exclusive properties. Just like a shape cannot simultaneously have four corners and no corners, your god cannot be all-knowing, all-loving, and all-powerful and still be responsible for the Universe we observe.
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 2:19 am
(April 11, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Leviticus 21:16-24 lists flat noses right up there with blindness, the scurvy, and other disabilities that disqualify people from serving in the temple.
Even though at the time, I was no longer a Christian, I was broken hearted to read 2 Samuel 5:8 where king David goes so far as to put a price on the head of the blind and lame, claiming that he hates them to his soul. This is not spiritual blindness he is talking about because Jesus told the Jews that if they were spiritually blind they would have no sin (Matthew 27:46). That's weird that even though I no longer believed in god, it still hurt to know how much he hates me when all my life I've been told that he loves me. When I tried to talk to some Christians about this, they jumped on me with both feet.
I would say your title is misleading, and you should read a little more context in 2 Samuel
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 11:14 am
(April 15, 2016 at 10:35 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Who's the bigger idiot - the person not intimately familiar with bee reproduction (of all things), or the person so desperate to prove strangers wrong on the internet that he quote mines something from two years ago (that's also off-topic) in order to prove his asinine point?
Who did I quote out of context?
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 11:15 am
(April 11, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Leviticus 21:16-24 lists flat noses right up there with blindness, the scurvy, and other disabilities that disqualify people from serving in the temple.
Even though at the time, I was no longer a Christian, I was broken hearted to read 2 Samuel 5:8 where king David goes so far as to put a price on the head of the blind and lame, claiming that he hates them to his soul. This is not spiritual blindness he is talking about because Jesus told the Jews that if they were spiritually blind they would have no sin (Matthew 27:46). That's weird that even though I no longer believed in god, it still hurt to know how much he hates me when all my life I've been told that he loves me. When I tried to talk to some Christians about this, they jumped on me with both feet.
Poor poor pitiful you.
You don't seem to get, that this list only Spoke to the levitates (those born in the family of Levi) Meaning one had to have been born of a priestly bloodline even before anything on this list was a consideration. (Meaning God didn't want you serving him as an OT Jew 10xs over before this list even applies)
Being a levite would most likely have manifested itself in certain physical traits, being only a few hundred years removed from levi. In the time of Moses having a 'flat nose' meant you had too much egyptian in your bloodline even if you were born a jew. Which was fine for everyother aspect of OT Jewish life, but apparently God did not want the 'flat nosed people' near the temple gold  (or really anything else holy.)
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 1:02 pm
(April 16, 2016 at 11:14 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 15, 2016 at 10:35 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Who's the bigger idiot - the person not intimately familiar with bee reproduction (of all things), or the person so desperate to prove strangers wrong on the internet that he quote mines something from two years ago (that's also off-topic) in order to prove his asinine point?
Who did I quote out of context?
I didn't say out of context, I said off-topic. You trying to have a dick waving competition with people here has nothing to do with Rhonda's objection to that Leviticus verse. It's just your typical "Herp derp, here's something from the past that I'm going to bring up again because I can't let anything go!" BS that only serves to prove that while you, occasionally, may be technically correct about some detail or another (which doesn't usually dismantle the overall point the other person is trying to make), you suck at, you know, basic human interaction.
Do you do this kind of shit to your wife?
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm
(April 16, 2016 at 11:15 am)Drich Wrote: (April 11, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Leviticus 21:16-24 lists flat noses right up there with blindness, the scurvy, and other disabilities that disqualify people from serving in the temple.
Even though at the time, I was no longer a Christian, I was broken hearted to read 2 Samuel 5:8 where king David goes so far as to put a price on the head of the blind and lame, claiming that he hates them to his soul. This is not spiritual blindness he is talking about because Jesus told the Jews that if they were spiritually blind they would have no sin (Matthew 27:46). That's weird that even though I no longer believed in god, it still hurt to know how much he hates me when all my life I've been told that he loves me. When I tried to talk to some Christians about this, they jumped on me with both feet.
Poor poor pitiful you.
You don't seem to get, that this list only Spoke to the levitates (those born in the family of Levi) Meaning one had to have been born of a priestly bloodline even before anything on this list was a consideration. (Meaning God didn't want you serving him as an OT Jew 10xs over before this list even applies)
Being a levite would most likely have manifested itself in certain physical traits, being only a few hundred years removed from levi. In the time of Moses having a 'flat nose' meant you had too much egyptian in your bloodline even if you were born a jew. Which was fine for everyother aspect of OT Jewish life, but apparently God did not want the 'flat nosed people' near the temple gold (or really anything else holy.)
Um, bullshit. Utter bullshit. It was a set of rules to the Levites, yes, but it regarded who was entitled to enter the Temple.
Your little Pulled Out of the Ass™ explanation doesn't cover why the same list would include flat noses AND people with hunchbacks and other deformities or handicaps. The simpler explanation is that the Levite priests who wrote the rules thought that just as animals without blemish could be used in sacrifice, that similar purity was expected in the physical form of the worshipers. Or maybe they just didn't want to have to deal with the sight of them.
But to focus on just the nose thing, pull an "Egyptians Unwelcome" explanation out of thin air, and ignore the rest of her list while calling her pitiful is... well, pitiful.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 2:17 pm
Is this where the "I got your nose" game came from? My family was subconsciously teaching me that I was not worthy as a child? Always thought they were a little twisted.
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 2:33 pm
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RE: God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 2:46 pm
Just re-opened this thread. Realized I've lost the train of discussion, and don't care enough to find out.
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A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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God said People who have Flat Noses Canot Serve Him
April 16, 2016 at 2:57 pm
(April 16, 2016 at 2:46 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Just re-opened this thread. Realized I've lost the train of discussion, and don't care enough to find out.
Drich was just vomiting up some ad hoc garbage excuse for why God doesn't like people with deformities. You aren't missing much. [emoji12]
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