Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]

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A sword blade of gold wouldn't be very useful... But the hilt/scabbard is inlaid with gold, which is why Arya reacts to it when she sees it in the Vale.

Also, there is quite a role reversal between Sam and Gilly there on the boat, no? Of course with Aemon dead already and Jon not making the switch with Val's baby, Gilly needn't be the inconsolable one.

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A sword blade of gold wouldn't be very useful... But the hilt/scabbard is inlaid with gold, which is why Arya reacts to it when she sees it in the Vale.

Here I thought that Arya was just not looking forward to being spotted and brought to King's Landing...

Also, there is quite a role reversal between Sam and Gilly there on the boat, no? Of course with Aemon dead already and Jon not making the switch with Val's baby, Gilly needn't be the inconsolable one.

ah, indeed.
All that Val storyline was thrown out the window... "the blood of the king beyond the wall" would have fit nicely into Melisandre's plan... now, Stannis "is dead", as well as his daughter... so... no king's blood around for the fire witch to play with... :þ

And the "singer" that should have gone to Winterfell, with a few girls, to help with the wedding party...?
That never happened... me haz sad.

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Daenerys was alive when she burned. That's why fire didn't do anything to her. Maester Aemon, on the other hand, who is fully a Targaryen, was burned on a pyre as well, but he was dead already, so nothing happened. I seem to recall Jaime saying he made sure his king(another Targaryen) never got the chance to "rise again" through fire by killing him with his sword. What would make us think half a Targaryen would do better under similar circumstances? He wouldn't. Lady Melisandre would have to revive him or he would have to go into Ghost and live as a direwolf - though, I'm not sure if he's a warg just like his brother- I can't remember much from the books.

Lady Melisandre bailed on Stannis because she realized she misinterpreted the signs The Lord Of Light showed her in the fire. Yes, she saw Winterfell conquered and all that, but nothing in particular about Stannis. Maybe Stannis was just a means to an end, Jon was the real promised warrior.

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Daenerys was alive when she burned. That's why fire didn't do anything to her. Maester Aemon, on the other hand, who is fully a Targaryen, was burned on a pyre as well, but he was dead already, so nothing happened. I seem to recall Jaime saying he made sure his king(another Targaryen) never got the chance to "rise again" through fire by killing him with his sword. What would make us think half a Targaryen would do better under similar circumstances? He wouldn't.

Good point...

Lady Melisandre would have to revive him or he would have to go into Ghost and live as a direwolf - though, I'm not sure if he's a warg just like his brother- I can't remember much from the books.

I don't get this "living through Ghost" thing...
He's supposed to be alive while warging... I consider it more like a remote control thing than a complete conscience transfer.
But.... to be honest... it's not made explicit.

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Daenerys was alive when she burned. That's why fire didn't do anything to her. Maester Aemon, on the other hand, who is fully a Targaryen, was burned on a pyre as well, but he was dead already, so nothing happened. I seem to recall Jaime saying he made sure his king(another Targaryen) never got the chance to "rise again" through fire by killing him with his sword. What would make us think half a Targaryen would do better under similar circumstances? He wouldn't.

Good point...

Lady Melisandre would have to revive him or he would have to go into Ghost and live as a direwolf - though, I'm not sure if he's a warg just like his brother- I can't remember much from the books.

I don't get this "living through Ghost" thing...
He's supposed to be alive while warging... I consider it more like a remote control thing than a complete conscience transfer.
But.... to be honest... it's not made explicit.

I think it's a complete conscience transfer. I seem to recall in the books they described one wildling's going into his controlled animals' consciousnesses after he died in his human form. No reason same thing couldn't happen with a Stark warg. But do we even know that Jon is a warg? I don't know.