Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]

[Whateverist]

I cannot speak for the show, since it seems to be going in its own direction, but G.R.R. Martin made a promise to his wife that one character he would never kill off was Arya.

Anyone happen to know what Grrrr's relationship to that wife is now?  It may determine whether Arya is the last standing or the next to go.

[account_inactive]

I really need to start watching this show.

[Excited Penguin]

I cannot speak for the show, since it seems to be going in its own direction, but G.R.R. Martin made a promise to his wife that one character he would never kill off was Arya.

Source?

[AkiraTheViking]

HBO Doesn't care. HBO Kills characters before he killed them.

[Whateverist]

I really need to start watching this show.

It's definitely going to be on this year's final exam.

[Homeless Nutter]

By the way - what the f*ck is Littlefinger doing? First - after all the effort to get Sansa out of King's Landing and convincing the lords of The Veil to protect her after Lysa's death - he gives her to Bolton's diabolical bastard of a bastard, for no apparent reason. And now - he's scheming in order to get Knights of the Veil to save her from her psychotic husband? Is he scheming just for the sake of it?

Seriously, what was that marriage supposed to accomplish, in the first place? Except putting the heir to Winterfell in the hands of a guy, who hunts and flails women for fun. And perhaps informing the entire Westeros of the whereabouts of a fugitive, suspected of participation in king Joffrey's murder? Because - since marriage with Sansa was supposed to give legitimacy to Bolton's rule over the North - they obviously didn't keep it a secret. It's a wonder, that no one in King's Landing thought to send some men to Winterfell, to at least question, if not outright detain her. Oh, well - since Tyrion was tried and convicted of the murder and then murdered his father and disappeared, escaping his punishment - I guess Cersei and the rest of Lanisters decided that it's all water under the bridge now... And they're not even a little curious, who helped her escape and arranged the marriage behind their backs...

I understand the show creators didn't believe viewers could comprehend the "fake Aria" plot and they REALLY wanted to show someone important being raped by Ramsey, but for f*ck's sake - do they even think about how little sense some of this sh*t makes?

[SteelCurtain]

The whole point was for the news to get out. He's playing both sides, on purpose. Sansa is a pawn, but she is too important for Ramsay to kill, even Ramsay knows that. Kill the "last remaining" Stark, and the legitimacy of the Bolton's hold on the North and Winterfell diminishes significantly.

Remember, the amount of time that has passed since he dropped Sansa in Winterfell is pretty miniscule. It's been more than a year for us, but for them it's been just enough time for Baelish to go back to the Vale and mount up the Lords Declarant. All of this was on purpose. I am not sure what his final aim is, but considering he thinks Jon the bastard is the lifelong Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, I'd imagine that he'll ride in, slay the Boltons, free the North from their psychopath oppressors, and win Sansa's heart and become Warden of the North and the Eyrie at the same time. He loves them Tullys, and Sansa is a spitting image of Catelyn in her younger years, it is said.

The Lannisters have more important things on their plates right now, and don't have the army anyway to be traipsing through the snow in order to attack Winterfell, one of the strongest castles in all of Westeros. Even if they'd be talking about it, there's little they could realistically do right now, and their eyes are on the Faith Militant.

I agree on the fake Arya plot, that's too complicated to insert Jeyne Poole into Winterfell and expect the audience to keep that in mind amongst the thousand other things.

[SteelCurtain]

[pocaracas]

It's a thing!!!
http://time.com/4342359/game-of-thrones-...ance-real/

"
But it wasn’t until Thursday morning that the episode’s director, Dan Sackheim, confirmed the love was real — well, at least for Tormund.

“I wasn’t even sure that when I delivered the episode it was really clear,” Sackheim told TVGuide.com. “It was like a fun little bit, but I wasn’t sure it was really clear that he had these amorous feelings for Brienne. I’m always amazed what fans pick up. I think it was fairly one-sided, but that’s OK. There’s nothing like a challenge. Men love a challenge.”
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[Homeless Nutter]

The whole point was for the news to get out.

And what is that supposed to accomplish? And why bother with turning Sansa into Alaine and hiding her in the Veil, if he was going to just let everyone know who and where she is?

He's playing both sides, on purpose.

Yes, I think everyone is aware of that at this point - the viewers, I mean. I still don't see the purpose of this particular move.

Sansa is a pawn, but she is too important for Ramsay to kill, even Ramsay knows that.

No, she's only important until she gives Boltons an heir - and even Littlefinger knows that. He also knows, that Roose Bolton has a young wife and is likely to produce an heir of his own, which may change the Bolton line of succession/inheritance. A man as cunning as Baelish should know better, than to rely on a notorious unpredictable psychopath, like Ramsey - unless he knows nothing about him, which is also difficult to believe.

And let's not forget, that while Sansa may be a pawn - she's more than that, she's all that Littlefinger has left of Catelyn. And she also knows he killed Lysa, which information she may share with Boltons, during one of the rape/torture sessions. All in all - seems like a dumb thing to do, letting her out of his hands.

Kill the "last remaining" Stark, and the legitimacy of the Bolton's hold on the North and Winterfell diminishes significantly.

Sure, but it's not really a deal-breaker. They've been holding Winterfell - without any Starks - since they took it off Greyjoy and nobody in the North as much as wrote a strongly worded letter about it. And once there are no more Starks - then someone will still need to be the Warden of the North and Roose was given that title by the King. If needed - they could try and arrange some marriage with a Karstark, or some other lesser house, which shares some blood with original lords of Winterfell. Or they still can produce a fake Aria...

Remember, the amount of time that has passed since he dropped Sansa in Winterfell is pretty miniscule. It's been more than a year for us, but for them it's been just enough time for Baelish to go back to the Vale and mount up the Lords Declarant.

I don't think so. Roose and Fat Walda inform Ramsey of Walda's pregnancy shortly after Sansa arrived at Winterfell. And the child was born shortly after Sansa and Theon escaped - unless we're to believe, that Ramsey waited a few months, before sending the Pink Letter to Jon. I understand that Walda is fat, but I doubt she was 8 months into the pregnancy, when Roose decided to tell Ramsey about it (and don't get me started on why he did that...). So Sansa must have spent between 3 and 8 months with the psycho rapist.

All of this was on purpose. I am not sure what his final aim is, but considering he thinks Jon the bastard is the lifelong Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, I'd imagine that he'll ride in, slay the Boltons, free the North from their psychopath oppressors, and win Sansa's heart and become Warden of the North and the Eyrie at the same time. He loves them Tullys, and Sansa is a spitting image of Catelyn in her younger years, it is said.

Really? He believes she will love him, after he gave her to the Bastard? I may not fully understand what women want, but I'm pretty sure it's not THAT...

The Lannisters have more important things on their plates right now, and don't have the army anyway to be traipsing through the snow in order to attack Winterfell, one of the strongest  castles in all of Westeros.

Who's talking about attacking Winterfell? Bolton is still their man - at least for the time being - and even if they are willing to let him have the last Stark, they would probably want to question her about her role in Joffrey's murder, because as it stands whoever orchestrated the whole thing - including Tyrion's escape - is still at large and potentially working against them. I understand they have other things on their plates, but it's not like they have to do it themselves - they are the royals, they have people to do this stuff. And anyway - dealing with multiple problems at once is what rulers are supposed to be doing.

Even if they'd be talking about it, there's little they could realistically do right now, and their eyes are on the Faith Militant.

About which they have so far done literally nothing, until the most recent episode. And again - I'm pretty sure they could be dealing with more than one problem at once (although perhaps the viewers couldn't). At the very least they could ask Bolton to "interview" Sansa for them. She would still be able to give them an heir, with a few patches of skin missing and they would find out who arranged her escape and all sorts of other information, which could potentially bring Baelish down, after all the years of scheming. Not smart.

I agree on the fake Arya plot, that's too complicated to insert Jeyne Poole into Winterfell and expect the audience to keep that in mind amongst the thousand other things.

Then they should have just skipped the whole thing, instead of making a mummer's farce of both plots, imho. They only did it, because the audience seemed to enjoy Sansa being tortured by a psychopathic villain, so they decided to do the same thing again, for some - ever diminishing - shock value... What will they do with Sansa next? Marry her to a f-ing rabid bear?