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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 23, 2016 at 9:37 pm
(May 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (May 23, 2016 at 5:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No moron,...women's products like clothing, hygiene products, and medical care cost more...
Buy fewer shoes. Problem solved! So, stereotypes are alive and well in Woowooland?
If we're going to make stereotype comments, the men could be by on the same wages as the women if they stopped buying and watching porn.
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 23, 2016 at 9:37 pm
(May 23, 2016 at 2:45 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (May 23, 2016 at 2:11 pm)pool the great Wrote: For the nth time, there is no such thing as a "gender wage gap". Please don't take any articles that "proves" wage gap is real seriously.
It's called "earnings gap" and it has nothing to do with discrimination based on gender,this is a fact,I'm not making this up.
If you are genuinely interested in the topic, give this article a read, http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvar...le/2580405
It's by a Harvard professor Claudia Goldin,who happens to be a woman.
Please, for the love of God don't fall for one of those articles again.
Men earning more than women in 439 out of 446 American jobs is an interesting statistic, Pool. And it is caused by a multitude of factors, it's not only gender discrimination. I will go read your posted article, but I have witnessed discrimination and inequality personally. So neither of us can say that the other side is putting out false propaganda for their own purposes - what is needed is an unbiased look at ALL the factors, and ways for both sides to come together to find a way to alter this 439 out of 446 result into something more equitable.
I'm genuinely curious about the experience you had. Can you please share?
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 23, 2016 at 9:40 pm
(May 23, 2016 at 9:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (May 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Buy fewer shoes. Problem solved! So, stereotypes are alive and well in Woowooland?
If we're going to make stereotype comments, the men could be by on the same wages as the women if they stopped buying and watching porn.
People actually buy porn? 0.o
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 23, 2016 at 9:42 pm
(May 23, 2016 at 9:40 pm)pool the great Wrote: (May 23, 2016 at 9:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So, stereotypes are alive and well in Woowooland?
If we're going to make stereotype comments, the men could be by on the same wages as the women if they stopped buying and watching porn.
People actually buy porn? 0.o
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 24, 2016 at 12:20 am
(May 23, 2016 at 9:36 pm)pool the great Wrote: (May 23, 2016 at 7:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote:
Way to pick a non-biased source, pool. The Washington Examiner?? Seriously?
I don't follow them much, so I can't comment on whether they are biased or not, but I think I can pretty confidently say that the Harvard institution is not biased.
There are literally hundreds of articles debunking the myth that is wage gap, just google for "why wage gap is a myth" or "wage gap debunked" you're bound to get hundreds of articles. These articles will most likely be created on the grounds of analysis of well known economists, not feminists blogs.
I saw an article containing comments from one Harvard professor... not Harvard.
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 24, 2016 at 12:38 am
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(May 24, 2016 at 12:20 am)The_Empress Wrote: (May 23, 2016 at 9:36 pm)pool the great Wrote: I don't follow them much, so I can't comment on whether they are biased or not, but I think I can pretty confidently say that the Harvard institution is not biased.
There are literally hundreds of articles debunking the myth that is wage gap, just google for "why wage gap is a myth" or "wage gap debunked" you're bound to get hundreds of articles. These articles will most likely be created on the grounds of analysis of well known economists, not feminists blogs.
I saw an article containing comments from one Harvard professor... not Harvard.
Meh, no evidence can make you drop that victim complex unless you really want to.
Wage gap is so outdated and debunked only people that have done zero unbiased research on the subject believes it,economists doesn't even consider it a real problem anymore.
Riddle me this, wouldn't you think that if women could actually be made to do the same amount of work for less money that there would be companies filled with majority of female employees?
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 24, 2016 at 12:39 am
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(May 24, 2016 at 12:38 am)pool the great Wrote: (May 24, 2016 at 12:20 am)The_Empress Wrote: I saw an article containing comments from one Harvard professor... not Harvard.
Meh, no evidence can make you drop that victim complex unless you really want to.
Wage gap is so outdated and debunked only people that have done zero unbiased research on the subject believes it,economists doesn't even consider it a real problem anymore.
Riddle me this, wouldn't you think that if women could actually be made to do the same amount of work for less money that there would be companies filled with majority of women?
No, partly because it's not necessarily conscious discrimination.
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 24, 2016 at 12:44 am
Unconscious discrimination?
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 24, 2016 at 12:44 am
(May 24, 2016 at 12:38 am)pool the great Wrote: (May 24, 2016 at 12:20 am)The_Empress Wrote: I saw an article containing comments from one Harvard professor... not Harvard.
Meh, no evidence can make you drop that victim complex unless you really want to.
Wage gap is so outdated and debunked only people that have done zero unbiased research on the subject believes it,economists doesn't even consider it a real problem anymore.
Riddle me this, wouldn't you think that if women could actually be made to do the same amount of work for less money that there would be companies filled with majority of female employees?
No... one economist who decided to be published in an extremely right-wing blog, almost on-par with Fox News, doesn't consider it a problem anymore. Give me more, and I will consider it.
Riddle me this: do you ever think beyond your cognitive bias?
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RE: Women earn less than Men
May 24, 2016 at 12:49 am
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2016 at 12:49 am by Redbeard The Pink.)
Not to sound like pool, but an earnings gap and a wage gap are not the same thing. Yes, discrimination occurs, and yes some people get away with it, but I have yet to see any convincing evidence that sexual wage discrimination is still a systemic problem in Western society, or that it is a major contributor to the earnings gap.
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