[split] Warm Greetings - The Not Welcome-y Stuff

[Losty]

IMO the moment the OP of an intro thread says something contraversial they should lose the right to not have contraversy in their thread. Maybe move the thread somewhere else. Being nice to new people is all well and good but it shouldn't be a free pass for them to join and be jerks and stir up crap just because it's the intro section. But that's just my opinion.

[Jackalope]

IMO the moment the OP of an intro thread says something contraversial they should lose the right to not have contraversy in their thread. Maybe move the thread somewhere else. Being nice to new people is all well and good but it shouldn't be a free pass for them to join and be jerks and stir up crap just because it's the intro section. But that's just my opinion.

So you'd suggest adding another layer of subjective interpretation? That's certainly let not going to lead to less bias. Considering the effort that we've gone through over the last several years to remove as much bias from the process as we can, it's my opinion that's not going to happen.

[pocaracas]

IMO the moment the OP of an intro thread says something contraversial they should lose the right to not have contraversy in their thread. Maybe move the thread somewhere else. Being nice to new people is all well and good but it shouldn't be a free pass for them to join and be jerks and stir up crap just because it's the intro section. But that's just my opinion.

That's when mods step in and either speedbump or split the thread... depending on stuff....

[Jackalope]

IMO the moment the OP of an intro thread says something contraversial they should lose the right to not have contraversy in their thread. Maybe move the thread somewhere else. Being nice to new people is all well and good but it shouldn't be a free pass for them to join and be jerks and stir up crap just because it's the intro section. But that's just my opinion.

That's when mods step in and either speedbump or split the thread... depending on stuff....

Right. I was actually getting ready to post something along those lines myself. Those are powers that we already have. What we don't need is a special case for Introductions in the event that the OP gets salty. That rule applies as much to them as it does anyone else.

The thing is, the regulars here know about the rule. New posters don't necessarily (yes, I'm fully aware of all the places that the special case rules for Intro are posted. You read that shit? I don't.). So we're - in my view - yno going to allow it to turn into a free-for-all when someone new steps over a line they may not have known about.

In case it's not clear - the above is just my personal opinion and not an official policy statement.

[Losty]

IMO the moment the OP of an intro thread says something contraversial they should lose the right to not have contraversy in their thread. Maybe move the thread somewhere else. Being nice to new people is all well and good but it shouldn't be a free pass for them to join and be jerks and stir up crap just because it's the intro section. But that's just my opinion.

So you'd suggest adding another layer of subjective interpretation?  That's certainly let not going to lead to less bias. Considering the effort that we've gone through over the last several years to remove as much bias from the process as we can, it's my opinion that's not going to happen.

I might suggest that I just leave the thread and go on pretending like I don't care.

[Jackalope]

@Losty

Hyperbole much?

[Jackalope]

Ah, I see you edited out the part I responded to. Nice work.

[Alex K]

Guys, Friends, stop getting agitated over relative peanuts. Are you trying to entertain the troll by going at each other now? Or did they put something in the water and that's why is everyone so on edge?

[Losty]

@Losty

Hyperbole much?

My memory does not fail me. Doesn't matter though. Not worth it. Especially not for this thread.

[Thumpalumpacus]

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I keep getting messages (which ping my phone to let me know I have a message), and have been having to reply to queries in several formats, so I'll come say this here to get it all out of the way.

I don't give a rat's ass (am I allowed to say that?) about the behavior of a troll. By the way, I don't think this is a troll; I've lived in Oklahoma, and this is really how most (white) people there think and speak.

What I do care about is the heavy-handed behavior of moderators on this board, a pattern I have noticed and been chafing at for some time.

Whether or not the post was directed at me (and I don't see how it could have been otherwise, since I too was arguing with this person who was so willing to slander us), we have a sudden and almost random "application of the rules", after this person has already started up several aggressive and libelous threads, only to start up another one in the introductions section that immediately sets about trying to flame us... and NOW it's off-limits to respond in (as Thump kindly called it), a "detailed and civil reply", just because this time she happened to pick the Introductions section for her, what, fifth thread?

Well, I don't use the sections; I use the "New Posts" button, which makes it hard to notice what sub-forum it's in when I open a new topic. The last thing I want to do with my time is worry about whether this particular thread I open up is going to draw a moderator's censorship, especially when the only thing I ever see anymore is long-time atheist members getting called out/constrained, and these vile bigots just left to run essentially rampant. That is why I said "enjoy your Christians".

For most of the previous year, I was spread too thin with my small amount of "spare" time, trying to keep up with the posts on AF and TTA at the same time, so I chose between them. I chose AF because of its smaller membership numbers; I figured it would hurt TTA less to lose the active participation of a member than it would, here. I have been questioning that decision, as I watched the pattern develop, and have instead decided to return to TTA. I like and/or respect a great many of you. So if any of you are members of TTA, or wish to post there, I will be glad to keep talking to you all.

If-and-when AF decides to get a new crop of less-heavy-handed moderators, and issues an apology for the constant Big Brother oversight that has been the case in the last couple of months, I will return. If this cannot be, then I wish you all the best.

- Rob (aka Rocket)

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So you're convinced this is all about you and has nothing to do with the post where she was invited to set herself on fire? Even though it was specifically said that it wasn't directed at you personally. I have to say, I'm disappointed. At least you probably made Janice happy. Best of luck.

No doubt the troll is having a self-satisfied chuckle at such a coup.