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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:08 am
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(June 12, 2016 at 9:57 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Just don't generalize on all Muslims. Nobody is.
We can discuss Islam as an ideology without it meaning that we think ALL Muslims are violent psychopaths. They're not necessarily the same thing. If someone talks generally about "white America" in the context of slavery and white supremacy, that's not the same thing as saying "ALL white people owned slaves and are racist".
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:13 am
Atlas,
I'm not sure where you get your news, but all reputable U.S. outlets trip over themselves to ensure that they report 'radical Islamic ideology' and not Muslims in general.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:20 am
(June 12, 2016 at 9:15 am)Yeauxleaux Wrote: This shit's just out of hand now. First that shooting at the concert earlier this week and now this happens. And we still won't have gun control.
No amount of gun control is going to stop terrorism. Terrorists don't need guns to commit mass murders. Timothy McVey proved that with simple hardware store chemicals. Terrorists across the world prove that almost daily with simple home made bombs. Besides, if they can't get the guns legally, they'll get them illegally, and gun control can't stop that either. Chicago has proven that too.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:22 am
Casualty count revised to 50, not 20.
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20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:28 am
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50 killed, 53 injured by Omar Mir Seddique Mateen. Hmmmm.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:34 am
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(June 12, 2016 at 10:20 am)A Theist Wrote: (June 12, 2016 at 9:15 am)Yeauxleaux Wrote: This shit's just out of hand now. First that shooting at the concert earlier this week and now this happens. And we still won't have gun control.
No amount of gun control is going to stop terrorism. Terrorists don't need guns to commit mass murders. Timothy McVey proved that with simple hardware store chemicals. Terrorists across the world prove that almost daily with simple home made bombs. Besides, if they can't get the guns legally, they'll get them illegally, and gun control can't stop that either. Chicago has proven that too.
I don't think it's wrong to say it won't stop terrorism completely, of course there's always going to be psychopaths who get hold of guns illegally, I agree. But controlling guns will at least reduce the amount of mass shootings and gun crime.
In The UK we have much stricter gun laws, mass shootings are not happening every month like they are in The USA. In a typical year we might get about 50 gun-related deaths.
The USA? It's about 30... daily.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34996604
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"So many people die annually from gunfire in the US that the death toll between 1968 and 2011 eclipses all wars ever fought by the country. According to research by Politifact, there were about 1.4 million firearm deaths in that period, compared with 1.2 million US deaths in every conflict from the War of Independence to Iraq."
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:39 am
Good luck trying to control guns.
Heh. Yanks are stocking up on guns that the government are talking about banning or regulating, so looks like a peaceful hand in of guns isn't exactly an option on the table.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:39 am
SHIT, new reports have the death toll at 50.... THANK YOU NRA!
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:42 am
(June 12, 2016 at 10:39 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Good luck trying to control guns.
Heh. Yanks are stocking up on guns that the government are talking about banning or regulating, so looks like a peaceful hand in of guns isn't exactly an option on the table.
I am beyond giving a fuck about gun worshipers. If my voting habits cause them to pick up a gun because enough of us manage to change a law, they become the bullies and terrorists at that point. There is no fucking reason for having voting at all if one side dictates to everyone. FUCK THEM!
If those childish fucking gun worshipers want to prove they can be as violent as ISIS because other people vote, that still will not stop me from voting. I am sick of their fucking bullshit.
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20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 12, 2016 at 10:45 am
(June 12, 2016 at 10:39 am)Brian37 Wrote: SHIT, new reports have the death toll at 50.... THANK YOU NRA!
The NRA had nothing to do with this. A radicalized Muslim did this.
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